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The killing of history : Comments

By John Pilger, published 27/9/2017

One of the most hyped 'events' of American television, 'The Vietnam War', has started on the PBS network.

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This author approaches his criticism of the West, from the visceral depths of despair. But yet where in human history has confrontation been subjugated by lasting peace; ever?

Wars have a habit of resting in the continuum of time. But his criticism of the UN is now universal: Relegated to nothing more than a stage from which to launch the lies of propaganda of all sides!

Should this author, by chance, awaken from his nightmare, and face the grim reality of a debased humanity, intent on self destruction on so many fronts, he would simply pass from one senecrious dream-world to another identical twin.

You will not change a thing Johnny-boy, by throwing tantrums!
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 7:56:25 AM
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LinkedIn with Gregory Williams
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Instructed a court of 4-8 youth Tennis players by developing their stroke and technique with various drills and match-play senecrious.

Greg and I have a commonality. “Senecrious”. Don't look for it, it's a fake word invented by Donal Trump.

Sometimes my heart longs for a typewriter, white-out and a dictionary….
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 8:41:22 AM
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War is hell and abomination!

Every war has examples of atrocities on all sides!

However, there are righteous wars! And the second world war was a righteous war that ended the reign of a mass murdering madman, who'd stop at nothing in a futile attempt at world domination!

And the extermination of a whole race along with gypsies, slavs and homosexuals!

Even so, more ordnance was dropped on a near neighbor to vietnam than dropped in the entire second world war, to suppress hated commies, just like you John?

If there's any take home lesson here John?

You can't beat boots on the ground and identified hostiles as targets of choice/surgical precision.

After D day many Gyrenes confessed they deliberately aimed high and to miss, right on up to Germany itself!

Then after they liberated those camps with their horrific, piled head high corpses and emaciated Jewish prisoners.

Their sights were not only just lowered, but they took no prisoners?

As always in any armed conflict for any reason, there are almost always atrocities and worse outcomes than the genocidal murdering of the innocent!

And none less justifiable than the annexing of another nation's sovereign territory to purloin their resources of enslave their people.

Or worse, do as much to your own, as the whim and caprice of an asinine, brother butchering madman, just to steal personal power!

I don't watch PBS all that often, but might look at this Vietnam Documentary? As required viewing?

But particularly after your patently premature, promulgated puerile (far left and beyond the blue horizon) pipsqueak pernicious puffed up popinjay penultimate penning, pompous propagandising of it?

IF ONLY WE COULD TURN BACK TIME? What would we take back do different?

Not release/publish and be dammed, secret or confidential information? That then resulted in the mass murder/extermination of many! And just as sure and certain as if we'd been there, personally pulling the trigger? Judge John?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 27 September 2017 8:48:08 AM
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Alan B.

'And the second world war was a righteous war that ended the reign of a mass murdering madman, who'd stop at nothing in a futile attempt at world domination!'

Yeah. And 60 million people died in order to end the reign of that mass murdering madman. Aren't statistics grand?

A righteous war? Gimme a break.

I read once, don't know where ... that WWII was the only time that the British Empire fought an enemy as evil as itself. Ditto, the other European colonial powers. The Nazis just tried to do to Europe and Russia what the European empires had been doing to the rest of the world for centuries.
Posted by Killarney, Thursday, 28 September 2017 2:54:55 AM
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South Vietnam had a Catholic government which excluded Buddhists.
" Diem once told a high-ranking officer, forgetting that he was a Buddhist, "Put your Catholic officers in sensitive places. They can be trusted." Many officers in the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) converted to Catholicism in the belief that their career prospects depended on it, and many were refused promotion if they did not do so. Additionally, the distribution of firearms to village self-defense militias intended to repel Viet Cong guerrillas was done so that weapons were only given to Catholics. Some Catholic priests ran private armies, and in some areas forced conversions, looting, shelling and demolition of pagodas occurred. Some Buddhist villages converted en masse to receive aid or avoid being forcibly resettled by Diem's regime.

The Catholic Church was the largest landowner in the country, and the "private" status that was imposed on Buddhism by the French, which required official permission to conduct public activities, was not repealed by Diem. The land owned by the church was exempt from land reform, and Catholics were also de facto exempt from the corvée labor that the government obliged all other citizens to perform; public spending was disproportionately distributed to Catholic majority villages. Under Diệm, the Catholic Church enjoyed special exemptions in property acquisition, and in 1959, he dedicated the country to the Virgin Mary. The Vatican flag was regularly flown at major public events in South Vietnam."
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Pres JFK knew about freedom , liberty and happiness.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 5 October 2017 7:58:16 PM
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