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Domestic violence laws in WA are a step too far : Comments

By Augusto Zimmermann, published 10/5/2017

It will be enough for a woman to simply claim she fears violence may occur in order to be issued with a restraining order.

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“If the new legislation passes through parliament it will be enough for a woman to simply claim she fears violence may occur in order to be issued with a restraining order.”

This is just another example of the demise of basic principles of justice that have been at the core of our society for centuries. It opens up the way for victims to abuse the law for things like personal revenge. The law should seek justice and not become a plaything of the bitter and resentful.

If you cannot prove harm then you have to accept that reality and find some other way of dealing with your situation. These women are not powerless. They can take control over their situation without resorting to the law but control over their situation is not really what they want. What they so often want is to hurt the person who has turned their fairytale into a nightmare. The real problem is their emotional attachment to their fairytale.

The constant cry of being ‘powerless victim’ has worked a treat in manipulating lawmakers into watering down values such as ‘innocent until proven guilty’. Why stop at domestic violence? Why not just ask every victim of any crime what they would like to see happen to the perpetrator of the harm they have endured. Dispense with evidence, trials, judges and juries and let all victims have what they want.

Some women will be victims of domestic violence but other people are also victims of crimes which they cannot prove. This is not about gender but about principles that apply to everyone. Most of us accept that the system is imperfect but it is the best we can do. What these laws advocate is something a lot more draconian than the best we can do.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 10:56:00 AM
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Disagree with this risible rubbish and think we could go further with regard to domestic violence and spouses who treat their partners as private property or punching bags, sent to a high security prison for an earned sentence, of in many cases of attempted homicide.

Justifiable on the grounds, a single punch can kill

! A near relative was beaten repeatedly by the animal that professed to love her, was always contrite lovey dovey afterward, and it was always her fault for not being a dutiful wife and opening her legs on demand, minus the usual foreplay, or failing to wait on him hand and foot like his personal slave.

Why she stayed is beyond explanation, save she thought the kids needed a dad? We found her hiding in the chook pen beaten black and blue, with her teeth knocked out or broken off in the gum and requiring surgery.

This animal was all sweetness and light begging on bended knees for forgiveness, giving endless assurances it would never ever happen again! She tolerated more of the same for around half a decade as she earned their living, and paid the mortgage, with a sewing machine.

Eventually she did leave him when he started bouncing a kid off a wall. He died quite early in his forties of cardiac arrest/natural causes. Allegedly, kept seeing a man with a rifle behind every bush? I did have a rifle and did have in my sights on one occasion and let him know!

It's amazing how riveting the damage wrought by a single hydraulic bullet can be?

I mean you can chop down trees or break off a widow-maker limb from one! A surefire and explosive cure for severe constipation!

No loss!

The perps will always say, actually and proactively protecting our women from these assholes is always going to be a step too far, until a few turn up in the morgue dead from Wiltshire stay sharp, knife wounds etc? then they'll be the ones shrilling for protection?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 10 May 2017 10:58:06 AM
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Accepting it is all Men's fault is a given. However most of the men in these disputes have Mothers and Sisters. Those Mothers and Sisters will not look favourably on a system that is so demonstrably unfair Look out pollies when there is another vote coming.
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 11:03:29 AM
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We do have impossible to fool, space age lie detection technology, which could be deployed covertly to catch out even the most convincing compulsive liar/psychopath. Be they wife beating villains or women seeking revenge or payback for betraying trust or whatever?

Why they aren't already deployed to catch out these animals, or intending terrorists or revenge seekers is beyond understanding, save a few high profile politicians could be caught out promulgating porkies? If widely deployed in busy public places?

I mean, who'd have thought an embarrassing or controvertible incident going somewhere to happen, like former Labor leader, Mark Latham, would find a natural home among the liberal democrats?

He and others, may be able to beat a polygraph? But not covert thermal imaging coupled to equally covert C.F.R.T! And able to be recorded on interview room or elsewhere CCTV, for evidence purposes, if criminal perjury is intended or suspected!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 10 May 2017 11:24:59 AM
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Why would a woman fear abuse if there was no grounds for it.
Posted by doog, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 11:35:55 AM
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And women are going to wonder why men won't have a bar of them, except for a one night stand.

If I were a young bloke today, it would be first the snip, then never more than one night stands for me. Otherwise there is a 50% chance you will be giving some conniving bitch your seed, money & future.

Too bad odds for me thanks.

Why is it that the left, & womens libbers are so self destructive?
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 12:37:20 PM
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