David, if your going to hang around outlaw motor cyclist and A league soccer hooligans. That's your own affair.

However if your going to suggest that police shouldn't do anything other the up hold the law then your on a fast track to stupidity and deserve to be called out.

You're part of the government that makes laws and as such you have the expectation that the courts and law enforcement do their jobs and enforce the laws of the land.

Surely your not suggesting the police and the courts are doing their own thing.. or should do their own thing.

Cobber, perhaps David, in a rather circumlocutory manner, is suggesting in a somewhat not so oblique way, that as the law stands, it is making it easier for the police to take the law into their own hands. You might actually agree that this is an undesirable state of affairs which should be rectified.

David

I think it was counter intuitive (great selection of words), to force MC gangs into the unseen underworld!

It is most likely, people generally travelling the highways of our country, that encounter MC gangs in numbers "blatting" past them in long two wheeled streams, as they amble along; do so without concern for their personal safety.

So one would wonder what is the fundamental purpose, and the logic of the VLAT laws.

Good thing to be repealed I would say, simply because, as the author points out, the "Gung-Ho" of the police force, with obvious personality disorders, should not be encouraged by such assistance, as the formulation of these oppressive laws unintentionally do!

But of course, coming from a past enthuistatic motorcycle rider, staying alive on two wheels, is a lesson in survivalist tactics extraordinaire. Added input of an additional layer of concern that surviving the ordeal, now encompasses (post VLAT laws), an overlaying concern of being arrested for it, should not be part of the contest.

Dont blame the police.

Blame the bikey gangs that operate like organised crime. Similar to the mafia
They are the ones that have spoiled things for innocent riders.

Im all for the government coming down hard on them associating. They run
drugs and prostitution. Before you know it they have members of the police force and politicians under their control, either by bribery from drug and prostitution money
or from setting politicians or police up with free sex, and then can blackmail them

Think mexico and organised crime. They have destroyed law and order in Mexico.
The politicians didnt take a strong stand against them for nothing.

They had a big gang shootout in a public place with families cowering behind cars
Al Capone and the valentines day massacre come to mind.

Yes,you get over zealous police at times, and they should be disciplined for that, but the police force needs to be seen
as a force and not the powder puff boys and girls with no
real power to use force appropriately, because of a public, sitting in their safe lounge chair not having to make any hard decisions about how to make a suspect do as they are asked. A suspect spitting abuse and struggling to get away.

One of the problems in Qeensland is that the police already have a reputation for being over zealous. They don't need any more excuses for crossing the line. One only has to look at the incarceration rate of Aborigines for an example.

David

To the SENATOR for RICH-WHITE-BLOKES, GUNS AND BIKIE BUSINESS INTERESTS

Onya Leyno.

Your heart being with GUNS, BIKIE's RIGHTS and rich white guys - let it not be said that you represent the poor, women, kids or downtrodden battlers in the community.