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Potential rorting a warning for PaTH program : Comments

By Aaron Lane, published 21/7/2016

How can the Federal government's scheme succeed where the Victorian government's failed? What safeguards will be put in place?

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Government schemes aimed at helping the unemployed are a lie!
if at the age of eighteen, and after a lifetime in an educational institution which produces an unemployable product, then the problem is not unemployment; The problem is the wasted money on educating the unemployable!
Only an idiot would believe work for the dole schemes are any more useful, other than to bury a problem deeper, by offering a golden handshake to businesses to pretend to help the unemployable!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 21 July 2016 7:47:47 AM
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If all we do is temporarily, place folks in "temporary" positions until the subsidy is exhausted? All we will have achieved is to destroy the dreams and hopes of the "used"!

If we are to subsidise employment opportunities and job training? Then it must result in an outcome! And that's why it should be rolled out as a3-5 years expanded apprenticeship or cadetship scheme! Which should result in a tradesman or certified professional, with exportable transferable skills!

Other than that, conscription that virtually results in the same thing, could be trialed? And where that then results in increased adult unemployment? WE need a proactive government ready willing and able to fund our best ideas, cooperative endeavor and new industries?

Say, like an a carbon fibre electric car, inspired by the the tesla Xover and mind boggling formula one performance and range that sells itself? We won't be waiting for the future but creating it right here!

I mean, we have all the elements right here to build a better battery and lighter car with better power to weight ratios. We have copious lithium deposits and sometimes incorporating rare earths; cobalt and indeed the world's purest commercial reserves of graphene?

And if a single site with independent off grid power supply (a cheaper than coal thorium reactor) was chosen from the get go?

Then we could emulate the mega factory Tesla is building but for completed vehicles not just batteries! Moreover, set up as an employee owned cooperative more than able to compete with any other manufacture anywhere!

Furthermore hundreds of other export oriented industries and thousands of manufactured products, could be rolled out using the very same template!? That not only has stood the test of time as the most fail safe, efficient and productive model, but survived the Great Depression largely intact? Nonetheless, would need to be protected from start up failure by adequate capital and mentoring!

Services are all well and good, but rely on a central other core like manufacturing to make themviable Even where that requires proactive governments to borrow like there's no tomorrow!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 21 July 2016 9:59:13 AM
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This type of government meddling with market forces lacks social responsibility. It offers pretence as a substitute for dealing with the root cause of unemployment: wasting youth in featherbeded life styles in a school system which has, in itself, been transformed from its old glory and social contribution of basic education, and into an unrecognisable industry where profit and ideology predominate as essentials for it's existence !
Unemployed should be living on the street; it's what markets demand,no contribution, no rewards! And starting at fifteen if unemployable! It's called skin in the game!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 21 July 2016 10:30:08 AM
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What stands in the way are ideologues, who are limited in their thinking; to flogging off the national estate and with it, our economic sovereignty!?

Given that is the entire limit of their imagination, when it comes to creating jobs?

And compound the self created problem by putting on a mental straight jacket, by self indoctrinating with monosyllabic moronic mantras and broken record rethoric like, that hoary old chestnut, the government has no business in business! Helped by those other terrible twins, unresolved debt and deficit!

With all due respect, the only way to fix either is to grow the economy, which requires the opposite approach to the preferred austerity! But rather, as a proven approach, by investing in our own people and their better ideas! [The very basis of the hugely successful celtic economic miracle, before the self deluded pigheaded Irish ideologues tried to flog their real estate market off to debt laden foreigners, which then, N.B., killed it!]

And a quite radical departure from all the usual nonsensical excuses, that seem to be quite massively overused just to "avoid taking responsibility" for outcomes that incidentally, also prevent perpetually prevaricating politicians from using the financial levers of office to assist enterprising Aussies getting started, even where that requires quite massive government borrowing!?

When every boy and his dog knows, that's the only remaining viable option other than selling the nation's heritage to foreign owners and control at bargain basement fire sales!

"It's time" to completely can the preventative ideology and replace it with national interest actionable outcomes that put Australia and Australians, plus the true national interest first and foremost! And wouldn't that make an interesting new and novel experience?

If management teaches just one thing, it teaches, there is always a better way!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 21 July 2016 11:34:05 AM
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The SA ex-taxi driver, now Treasurer is pulling the same stunt, with money we don't have. $10,000 to employers who hire one new employee. Putting aside the obvious rorts that we know would occur, given past experiences of giving people public money, the whole scheme is ridiculous. Even a taxi driver should no that employers will not hire if they do not have the work. And they do not have the work. Several small businesses in South Australia close down each week, and we have the highest unemployment figure in the country. Handing out public money and calling it job creation is just helping out crooks in waiting.

Some firms here have actually had to close down because of the cost of electricity - the highest in the country because of ridiculous wind power and massive subsidies to rent-seeking householders who install solar panels. That's the nonsense Taxi Tom should be looking at to create jobs. Denmark, another big windwill crackedocracy, is finally learning that their obsession with windpower was a huge mistake. It is highly unlikely that the SA Labor government, kept in power for 15 years by dopey, apathetic voters, will come to the same conclusion. Much easier to hand out borrowed money to their sleazy mates and pretend that they are doing something.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 21 July 2016 1:14:48 PM
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The rich get richer the poor get poorer.

Business owners UP Taxpayers DOWN.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 21 July 2016 3:19:37 PM
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