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Could Turnbull's lack of nuance lose the election? : Comments

By Glen Anderson and Alan Berman, published 3/6/2016

Turnbull has sought to create greater differences between the Coalition and Labor than was necessary to win the election.

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I don't think so! Labor needs to win another 21 seats, to see them win government? And given a primary vote of around 36%, that continues to look extremely unlikely?

More likely is a continuing trend to move away from the major parties, and continue to vote one way in the house of reps and another in the senate? Which would likely suit Malcolm who seems to have some serious negotiating skills coupled to a degree of inherent flexibility.

Moreover, the coalition ought to understand and history supports this, the tail wagging the dog, roadblock role the greens intend to play; and ought to preference anyone else ahead of them?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 3 June 2016 8:24:45 AM
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I didn't bother reading past the bit where these fools tell us that climate science is settled, & Turnbull should get with the strength.

Where do these legal academics go at night? They sure don't meet any ordinary citizens, if they can make such a fool claim. Yes academics are making so much money from the scam, they hope it keeps going, but it is becoming a forlorn hope.

It was climate the science scam that destroyed Rudd & Gillard, & these fools have not even noticed.

With any luck it will be the climate science scam that gets rid of Turnbull for the second & final time.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 3 June 2016 8:43:31 PM
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Agreed Hasbeen. How has the education system been so dumbed down as to have adults believe this man made gw nonsense. I suspect so many snouts in the trough especially among the renewables scams.
Posted by runner, Friday, 3 June 2016 9:38:33 PM
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If Turnbull,Shorten or the Greens win,we all lose. Has no one realised this reality? They are all owned by the debt money creation system.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 3 June 2016 10:31:30 PM
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hasbeen’s comment is arrogant, arrogantly put, though the self-description seems very appropriate. Sneering insults to those with whom hasbeen disagrees for entirely bad reasons underline the bankruptcy of such an approach.
In a joint letter to the American Congress in 2011, 18 scientists from various universities and research centres wrote:
“Climate change deniers cloak themselves in scientific language, selectively critiquing aspects of mainstream climate science. Sometimes they present alternative hypotheses as an explanation of a particular point, as if the body of evidence were a house of cards standing or falling on one detail; but the edifice of climate science instead rests on a concrete foundation. As an open letter from 255 NAS members noted in the May 2010 Science magazine, no research results have produced any evidence that challenges the overall scientific understanding of what is happening to our planet's climate and why.
“The assertions of climate deniers therefore should not be given scientific weight equal to the comprehensive, peer-reviewed research presented by the vast majority of climate scientists.”
Turnbull is held hostage to such wreckers since such Neaderthals dominate the Liberal party, to our cost.
Posted by R. Ambrose Raven, Sunday, 5 June 2016 7:59:01 AM
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2016’s election is NOT about nuance! Turnbull is facing another hung Parliament precisely because the impact of class warfare is now damaging our everyday lives. Unaffordable housing is but one example. We can no longer afford to ignore the costs of those lovely house price increases (monopolised to owners).

Class warfare? Turnbull’s rewrite of Abbott/Hockey's 2015 Budget continues the $101 BILLION in utterly worthless tax concessions and subsidies, PLUS cumulative cuts in State funding for needed services of $80 BILLION. As all that loot goes to feeding the greed of the wealthy working rent-seekers with their snouts and trotters in the taxpayer-funded trough, with absolutely no benefit whatever to the rest of society but at a cost of $101 BILLION to our Budget (and increases the Demon Deficit), how is it not class warfare?

Most senior Laberals – abbott, Hockey, Morrison, Shorten after the election, et al - believe that the wealth of society is not for the people in it, but for the few who control it. As globalisation, technology and business expropriation of productivity gains now produces many marginalised, vilifying and income-stripping the marginalised ultimately income-strips much of society. But, but, such income-stripping frees more funds to feed the greed of the rich through personal top-tax-rate and company tax cuts, plus tax concessions. So, diverting taxpayer funds to ruling-clique plunder means, for example, that Australia's transport infrastructure deficit – the consequence of 40 years of under-investment – in 2015 stood at about $100 billion.

Class warfare - the main cause of distrust in government and the political class - is of course invariably denied as regards contemporary Western societies. Yet in those same societies ruling class aggression against and plunder of the masses is the main cause of social and economic tensions. Nothing nuanced about that!
Posted by R. Ambrose Raven, Sunday, 5 June 2016 8:25:48 AM
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