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The dirty secret of Utopia : Comments

By John Pilger, published 12/4/2016

White Australia sets up organisations and structures that offer the pretence of helping us, but it's a pretence, no more.

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Oh another white people bad, black people good, anything that goes wrong is whitey fault. With friends like you John it's no wonder that many aboriginal groups are not forging ahead.

John take your blinkers off and see the reality of the situation, until you do the only people your convince a few doctors wives on the north shore
Posted by Cobber the hound, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 8:57:50 AM
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As usual a shiite stirring spray, that adroitly avoids the real problem.

And pedophilia in record numbers routinely glossed over by an excuse makers, are a central part of the problem and the probable reason ten year old kids are taking their own lives.

I live next adjacent to many older homes lined with asbestos. However, nobody is claiming it is white Australia's problem.

In south africa the black population is slowly getting their act together and in spite of the widely reported official corruption and tribal nepotism. And doesn't that have a familiar ring?

John simply ignores all the inconvenient facts, like the number of black elitists hands have to be greased to get anything built on tribal land?

The recent cyclone that ripped through Fiji, saw hundreds of ethnic Fijians getting up off their backsides and taking to the ruins of their homes, with hammers and saws, to begin rebuilding, with just what they could salvage.

Whereas our ethnic communities try, with the help of self serving political activists like a WHITE expatriate John, to make white australia responsible for everything.

Even so there are green shoots of self help emerging in some places, where bush tucker and market garden enterprises are flourishing.

After the war there was mass migration to this place and tales of immigrants who lived in tin shanties with dirt floors. And where the water had to be hand carried from a nearby waterhole and tucker cooked over open fires.

However, the difference was whole families who lived on the smell of it and worked as one for the common cause until everyone had homes and self supporting businesses!

All happening while black communities (where violence is seen as entertainment) drunk themselves into the usual stupor, or got busy buggering boys; or raping babies? And trying to pass it of as secret men's business, all while fighting over who was in charge.

Ably assisted by diabolically disingenuous, manifestly mendacious political activists, who allow these folk to blame white others, all while refusing to own their own behavior.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 9:30:02 AM
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Bilger is fortunate in having a huge gullible audience on a small island, where people couldn't possibly even conceive of the problems of servicing piss-ant 'communities' across vast distances like in the NT.

Then there are the bald-faced lies: people at Utopia, like elsewhere, get standard welfare payments, available at ATMs on most 'communities'. Not to mention a share of mining and conservation royalties. Perhaps Utopia now has too few people to warrant a store - if you need, say, 250 people shopping exclusively with you, what storekeeper would keep open with, say, fewer than 200, (therefore constant losses), OR if the publicly-provided Toyotas (and free petrol) take people back and forth to Alice Springs where they do most of their weekly shopping, using a local shop only for its fast food component and top-up needs.

'Starving' ? In the Evidence to the 1860 SA Select Committee 'on the Aborigines', the Committee chairman, John Baker, tried to browbeat the missionary at Point McLeay, George Taplin, over an incident which his foreman had supposedly witnessed. Baker was head of the Legislative Council, had a lease on the property next door to the Mission, and was constantly trying to close down the Mission. His foreman had reported to him about three elderly people starving, whom he had supplied with flour. Baker tried to grill Taplin about it, edging towards an accusation of neglect. Taplin laughed and remarked that they always got rations and, further, that somebody had, on the very morning of the 'incident', supplied those 'starving people' with a bush turkey, 20 kg worth. In other words, the foreman was conned, the 'starving people' had put on a very convincing act.

So perhaps the nicest thing one could say about Bilger in this instance is that he also was conned. But, his defenders would say, aren't Aboriginal people primitive, child-like, incapable of tricking a sophisticated white bloke like Bilger ? Doesn't sound like it.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 10:40:26 AM
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Yes Joe, somehow Pilger forgets to mention all the Centrelink money going to the residents of Utupia. Or the millions of hectares of hunting land they have available to obtain their traditional food.
He also forgets to mention the AVO taken against Rosalie Kunoth Monks by prominent members of the Utopia community who say she and her family are not welcome there, and do not represent the community.
The fact is, that many people living in remote areas are better off than those living in the city because they have the ability to augment their food supply with traditional food. This, plus the lack of rent for housing and free water, more than compensates for the higher cost of store food
Posted by Big Nana, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 12:10:48 PM
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"supplied those 'starving people' with a bush turkey, 20 kg worth"

Make that plural, Brush Turkeys (say ten of). They (bustards) have a smaller frame.

Many commentators, urban indigenous too, confuse the larger framed Bush Stone-Curlews and other birds with Brush Turkeys, but again it would be plural to make up 20kg.

Along with other country children including indigenous, we caught, shot and cooked most things edible.

Only a minor point.

Loudmouth(Joe), "Then there are the bald-faced lies: people at Utopia, like elsewhere, get standard welfare payments, available at ATMs on most 'communities'. Not to mention a share of mining and conservation royalties. Perhaps Utopia now has too few people to warrant a store - if you need, say, 250 people shopping exclusively with you, what storekeeper would keep open with, say, fewer than 200, (therefore constant losses), OR if the publicly-provided Toyotas (and free petrol) take people back and forth to Alice Springs where they do most of their weekly shopping, using a local shop only for its fast food component and top-up needs"

Very true, but it is NOT the 'Black Armband" history that is taught in schools and is promoted by the $1.3billion pa taxpayer-funded ABC.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 2:32:54 PM
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And as always a seemingly anti reconciliation and anti recognition John seeks to divide folks with his blatant BS and blame shifting!?

Perhaps stir up enough general hate to kill the R+R referendum stone cold dead in the water?

I mean what other purpose could this extreme left wing activist and Assange apologist, have for all the par for the course shiite stirring?

The dirty little secret may be the completely calloused and indifferent drug runners, who just pose as (the most unlikely) sympathetic activists as credible cover?

And who would look at such a person, their crew and camera men, even though it seems to be the longest doco in recorded history?

What are you making John, a never ending year long mini series called Utopia?

How much coke or heroin could be packed into the bowels of a fake camera, a couple of Kgs perhaps?

And ferried in past the very noses of the (responsible) police?

Perhaps we need a few drug sniffing dogs to expose some of the methods, some communities are using to smuggle in hard drugs and brain destroying ice?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 4:57:27 PM
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