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The spirit of preaching : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 16/3/2016

When the Old Testament prophet begins or ends his prophesy with the words 'Thus says the Lord' he knows that the words he speaks are not his words

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The OT shifts terminology for a single figure between man, lord, angel, and Lord --eg. Zechariah 1

7 ... the word of the Lord came to Zechari′ah the son of Berechi′ah, son of Iddo, the prophet; and Zechari′ah said, 8 “I saw in the night, and behold, a man riding upon a red horse! He was standing among the myrtle trees in the glen; and behind him were red, sorrel, and white horses. 9 Then I said, ‘What are these, my lord?’ The angel who talked with me said to me, ‘I will show you what they are.’ 10 So the man who was standing among the myrtle trees answered, ‘These are they whom the Lord has sent to patrol the earth.’

and Zechariah 2 -

1 And I lifted my eyes and saw, and behold, a man with a measuring line in his hand! 2 Then I said, “Where are you going?” And he said to me, “To measure Jerusalem, to see what is its breadth and what is its length.” 3 And behold, the angel who talked with me came forward, and another angel came forward to meet him, 4 and said to him, “Run, say to that young man, ..."

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Posted by McReal, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 9:03:00 AM
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The musings of the brainwashed? This highly dubious article is based on an entirely unproven and unprovable premise and as applicable to the new testament, from hearsay words only written or appearing in patently plagiarized print some 350-500 years after the event?

And given energy can never ever be created or destroyed, merely transformed; and given we are all the Sons and Daughters of the unified field of energy that is the universe, so saith the Lord.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 9:05:03 AM
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Peter, I wish you would address the big issue...how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?
Posted by Cobber the hound, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 9:54:50 AM
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you certainly have a very different view to the apostle Paul. He called for all men to repent and turn to Christ. You Peter just leave me mystified.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:04:09 AM
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When any sentence uses the words "and so sayeth the Lord" we know it is a lie, because no one has actually heard any God speak.
Humans made up gods, just as they made up the bible stories and other religious books.
To me, 'preachers' are just good actors who enjoy the attention of a crowd.
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:13:17 AM
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Thank you Peter,

I think I understand the message of this article.
But in order to get it, I had to dig it through the Christian layer,
which not everyone is familiar or agrees with.

So let me briefly rephrase the article in a language that does not rely on Christian concepts:

1. What exists or doesn't exist is a material question - which should therefore be left for science and should not concern religion.
2. Instead, religion is concerned with the question "What is good" (which for the theological-minded is equivalent to the question "Which way leads to God").
3. Preaching remind people of their resolve to do good and strengthens that resolve of theirs.
4. When preaching is done with the right intention of serving God, coming deep from within the preacher's pure heart without being obstructed or hijacked by the preacher's ego and desires, it can be considered the "word of God".
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 11:50:07 AM
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