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Cosmic cycles, not carbon dioxide, control climate : Comments

By Viv Forbes, published 20/1/2016

The warm days, seasons, years and epochs have never been a deadly threat to life on Earth. Frost, snow, hail and ice are the killers.

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This is a new low, the author has filled this article with Anti-science talking points and no facts. Every single point has been address by people far more competent then the author.
For those interested in the actual science rather then the author assertions.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_warming
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/

and one talking to directly to some of the authors points

http://solar-center.stanford.edu/sun-on-earth/FAQ2.html

If your the type to get financial advice from taxi drivers then this is the article for you. If not then stick with the national science organisations.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 8:22:56 AM
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Here is another relevant link http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/06/viv-forbes-is-caught-red-handed-again.html

Also its always fun to play talking points bingo http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fun:Global_warming_denial_Bingo

This article scores quite well.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 8:39:09 AM
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Irrespective of what 'causes' climate change, nothing can be done about it. Anybody who thinks that giving money to Third World countries, huge subsidies for wind and solar companies, or driving around in expensive hybrid cars is helping, is seriously deluded - or seriously cracked.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 9:25:22 AM
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Cobber the Hound - looked at the first of your posts.. Its just basic restatement of the greenhouse case which degenerates into propaganda. Take the first three points down the page of what the writers imagine is the skeptics case.. in fact I don't know anyone who's made the claim that climate hasn't changed - of course it has. You should find propaganda that isn't obviously wrong.

As one of the other posters notes, whatever you may think of climate theory, the bulk of the money spent on fixing "the problem" has undeniably been wasted. You should link to posts that talk about fixing that problem.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 9:41:16 AM
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Risible rubbish Viv.

Simply put, the great solar furnace in the sky has been in a waning phase since the mid seventies.(NASA)

Therefore, ipso facto, the world should be getting considerably cooler! Instead we have seen indisputable evidence of just the opposite.

Including record ice melts/retreats. The almost and formerly unknown in living memory, of the complete absence of summer sea ice in northern climes, with the unprecedented opening of a northwest passage.

Equally unprecedented northern tundra permafrost (permanent frost) melts, with the consequent release of millions of tons of methane, and far more efficacious greenhouse gas than Co2, and given the associated water melt, hundreds of new Alaskan lakes!

We have just experienced one of the hottest years on record and during an ongoing waning phase.

In future you should study the unbiased research material,Viv or failing that, just the indisputable facts and indeed, try talking from a little higher up next time.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 9:44:10 AM
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This is a great article. Well said, Viv.

Great, because it is the sort of thing that gets the warmist bedwetters hyperventilating in typical fashion telling us to believe the mythical 97% of idiots who get the biggest taxpayer funded research grants to tell us the opposite; that we are frying up and will all die ... and don't forget the cute rolly-polly bears.

I don't see any factual errors. I understand the dangers of being cold are far more dangerous for us than any minimal natural warming. The bedwetter, pantywaists don't.

If only the bedwetters could nominate the Goldilocks style, not-too-hot, not-too-cold, but just right temperature and notify us of the setting for the big CO2 knob controlling the earth's thermostat that will keep us there, that would be great and the world will be saved, and we'll all live happily ever after, amen ... in their ideal world of one world government with the supreme leader holding the keys to the knob.

Ignore them.

Or, in a more Christian vein, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.”
Posted by Captain Col, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 9:55:00 AM
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