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Requiem for the Arab Spring : Comments

By Jed Lea-Henry, published 12/1/2016

Tunisia's problem is clearly much more than state weakness, it is ideological and therefore considerably harder to eradicate and this is the good news story from the region!

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Interesting article, who could take the prospect of an 'Arab Spring' seriously when the toxic influence of Islam is everywhere in the ME? The reason that Western governments supported various authoritarian regimes in the region is that.they realised that revolution would first lead to chaos and then to brutal theocracies.

File the 'Arab Spring' next to that other neoliberal fantasy, the prospect of liberal democratic regimes in the former Soviet Union.
Posted by mac, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 9:06:32 AM
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If people get the government they deserve / need , then the obvious question is what about Allah? Was Muhammed on a roll because his all-military , all-merciful pen and sword was just what the Arab market demanded? Byzantium won in Ukraine-Russia because its colourful Church ritual and pomp beat the other contestants for government religion. ( a bit like the Oz tradition for submarine bids).
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 9:50:20 AM
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The Arab spring never was.
It was always a revolt against states that failed in one way or another.
Their religion bans democracy so the population were never looking for
democratic governments. They were looking for better government and
cheaper food and fuel.

That their whole history is based on others providing and their
inability to understand why it is that non-Arab countries are usually
much richer than their slave based economies from old, and oil based
in recent times.

Arab countries are feeling the effects of the declining growth era
much sooner than "western" countries. I suspect that maybe because
their economic and political structures are still tribal and primitive in structure.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 10:28:19 AM
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The refusal of US to submit to the will of the Hague, peace be upon it, is tribal and written in the book of civil war. Democracy may allow Bharaq Osama to join the civilised world after the bombing of violent Arabs brings a Christian peace. All this may be for nothing if West Australia's tribe secedes with its ore mountains, awaiting a profit.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 11:01:45 AM
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We just can't help ourselves, can we? This whole article is a living example of the West's patronising superiority complex, which assumes that the Middle East must be saved from itself - and damn the consequences for the ME's people.

The so-called Arab Spring was different things to different countries. In Tunisia and Egypt (and now Yemen), it was mostly a genuine protest against puppet dictatorships, whose first duty was to their Western masters, not the people. None of these 'democratic revolutions' were conducive to Western interests, so they have been subverted by means of proxy counter-coups, using privatised armies of Western and local mercenaries.

In Libya, it was entirely a Western planned and financed proxy war to get rid of a leader who, among other things, threatened the global economy with plans for an African trade bloc and its own currency. (Libya was basically a replay of Iraq, but without the ground-troop invasion.) Gaddafi's 'rivers of blood' speech was taken entirely the wrong way by the Western media - deliberately so. Rather than threatening the Libyan people, he was warning his people and the world that the revolt was a Western-backed, al-Qaeda-driven terrorist campaign that, if not halted, would bring untold death and destruction to the Libyan people. How right he was!

In Syria, it was always another Western proxy war designed to get rid of a regime that is aligned to Iran and Russia. There's no Arab Spring about this whatsoever - it's purely geo-political in both intent and design.

How people of the West continue to not see the bleeding obvious pattern here is impossible to fathom, but seems to be a case of mass denial. Our view of ourselves as an infinitely superior culture, religion and race is too deeply embedded in our collective psyches. We'd rather destroy millions and millions of lives in faraway countries than ever give up our missionary zeal to remake the world in our own image.
Posted by Killarney, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 7:16:08 PM
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Killarney and Bazz have posted a correct view. That is , add the two and divide by half, down the middle 50-50.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 12 January 2016 8:28:52 PM
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