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Do we have religious freedom anymore? : Comments

By Mike Bird, published 19/11/2015

Now 'tolerance' means that if you say anything that I find offensive, then I am fully justified in seeking punitive measures to destroy you.

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Good article. That a Catholic Archbishop can be dragged before a socialist star chamber for issuing material which merely states the Catholic doctrine, to Catholics, is alarming in a democratic society such as ours. Particularly as Islamic doctrine preaching against democracy, freedom of speech and preaching for violence and death goes on in the same democratic society. And there is also the matter of the complainants preaching and making their own offensive (to many people) demands for homosexual 'marriage' who are actually supported by some of legislators who helped enact the crap laws that now seek to embarass and possibly prosecute a person, Archbishop or not, who has a 'natural right' to also express opinions contrary to those of the mob.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 19 November 2015 9:08:01 AM
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oh dear, there is only one thing new here, it's that fact that the religious are on the back foot. They do not enjoy the position they have had for so long.

How many religious groups want laws that enforce their world view?
Many Christians actually believe that only Christians are fit for office.
I don't recall any major religious groups advocating the removal of laws against homosexuality for instance.

over to you Runner say something crazy
Posted by Cobber the hound, Thursday, 19 November 2015 9:14:17 AM
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The argument in favour of “same-sex marriage” is so illogical – think “carnivorous vegetarians” – that it is necessary for its supporters to silence its opponents. It fits with the use of the misleading term, “marriage equality”, the pretence that gays are not allowed to marry (when they can already do but don’t want to), the idea that the meaning of a word is a human rights issue, the labelling of opponents as religious bigots and homophobes. Even though ruthless dishonesty of the campaign has convinced most people to support the contradiction in terms that is “same-sex marriage”, numerical victory is not enough. The proponents, including those who did not give a toss abut the non-issue 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 or 60 years ago, must destroy the opponents. Who would have thought that the long progress to an inclusive, non-discriminatory society would have led to such fascist attitudes?
Posted by Chris C, Thursday, 19 November 2015 9:14:47 AM
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To be fair, secularists pay taxes and have a right to define marriage any way they want. This just means that churches will need to have their own version of marriage that congregations adhere to. So, perhaps to enable the living of a Christian life, coalitions of churches could consider purchasing property like the Kidman cattle station to ensure flourishing.
Posted by progressive pat, Thursday, 19 November 2015 9:41:37 AM
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Perhaps the Catholics should be paying tax if they want to be fully engaged with the broader community.

Perhaps you could advise if my children are permitted to go to a Catholic school noting we are not religious? Who is really discriminating now?

As to the assertion, those communities with LGBT living in them, what a joke, all communities have "these" people in them, what a dumb comment.

1 for effort, 0 for logic and 8 for, oh no we are getting scared now, we really are becoming more irrelevant as the clock ticks on.
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Thursday, 19 November 2015 12:03:52 PM
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Hound,

You are talking absolute rubbish, as usual. You pick on runner even though he has not even posted yet, and even without you knowing that he will.

You don't have to be "religious", as you name runner, to have the commonsense and the sense of right, decency, democracy and fair play that you do not have. I could never be called religious; but Christianity is not a bad basis to live by, even if you cannot always live UP to its ideals. There are 'natural rights' that the Archbishop was exercising, and their are so- called 'positive rights' enacted by human buffoons (called politicians) merely on their own ideas of what is right or wrong. The 'law' which is being inflicted on the Archbishop is a quite tyrannical and unnatural one, dreamed up by some nutty socialist
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 19 November 2015 12:17:32 PM
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