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A new pro-corporate tier to Australia's government and judiciary : Comments

By Thomas Faunce, published 5/11/2015

The newly signed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) includes a chapter that marks a turning point in the diminution of democratic sovereignty in Australia.

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Just something else our rotten politcians have kept from us, as they beaver away behind our backs, selling off our sovereignt, our culture, beliefs and way of life, while we drift along in apathetic hedonism.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 5 November 2015 8:57:30 AM
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This article is very welcome, but one rather fears that it is a case of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted. A number of commentators, including myself, have tried to point out the dangers of the Dispute Resolution procedures in the TPP negotiations. For the most part the corporate media have ignored the warnings. The Labor opposition has been conspicuously silent. After all, the negotiations began long before Mr Robb was Minister. They have acquiesced in the appalling level of secrecy that has surrounded these negotiations, and have been silent on their stance about the legislation that will be needed to give effect to the treaty.
In short, we have been sold out by both major political parties.
Posted by James O'Neill, Thursday, 5 November 2015 4:51:21 PM
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Dear James,

Yes, we have been sold out by the major political parties.

You say that the horse has bolted:
I wonder what will happen if a combination of different parties is voted in next time and declare this treaty null and void?
Would the other countries that are party to this agreement send in their navies, drones and rockets to punish Australia?

There's an even better way to get rid of this treaty: let each state secede from the commonwealth, then say: "What do you want from me - I haven't signed it!"
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 5 November 2015 5:11:19 PM
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i have been saying that all members of the major mistakes political parties are devil worshippers for a while now & that Mao-colm Rudd is the Manchurian candidate. now we see the proof. anybody who votes for any of the 4 major mistakes parties is insane.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Thursday, 5 November 2015 7:29:56 PM
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The author completely fails to make his case, and in the process demonstrates that he has completely failed to understand what he's talking about, for the following reasons.

At issue is whether investment decisions should be made by the private parties to them, or by governments. The author contends that governments should make them.

At no stage does he give any reason whatsoever for this contention, and that is why he fails to make his case. All he does is repeat the assumption, over and over again, that investment is a somehow anti-social and undesirable activity, and that governments presumptively know better what investments should be made.

This demonstrates that he has failed to understand what he's talking about, otherwise he would not have obliviously exhibited an intellectual technique that consists of nothing but repating the same erroneous assumption over and over again from different angles.

Notice also that, while his whole article is nothing but an open-ended plea for arbitrary power to forcibly override freedom and private property, he neither defines the State or government, nor gives any explanation for his *assumption* that its decisions are better able to satisfy the wants of the people, as decided by themselves?

Notice how he provides no rational or objective criterion for knowing whether or how a governmental investment can be known to be better or worse, than would otherwise obtain?

Notice how he *assumes* that government should make all decisions, or fails to give any criterion for deciding what it should not decide?

He also performs a self-contradiction by writing the article, since according to him, the issues should be decided by brute force, not by reason or argument.

James O'Neill also contradicts himself since, according to his theory, rights are whatever the government says they are, so you have no right whatsoever to expect anything other than the arbitrary power that you worship and advocate.

Note to Statists: people are not just herds of chattels owned by government.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 7 November 2015 7:44:39 PM
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Jardine K Jardine, your projecting, he said that if a majority of people vote to protect themselves from pollution, the investor can force us to accept pollution, even if it kills us.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Monday, 9 November 2015 5:55:20 AM
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