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Methane hydrates: China's real South China Sea goal? : Comments

By Stewart Taggart, published 29/9/2015

At worst, it could lead to a 1964 Tonkin Gulf-type incident at sea that leads to war. China's unlikely to want that.

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>>Far better would be for China to deploy its sophisticated technology backed by the deep pockets of its Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank to create 'partnerships' with the Philippines and Vietnam to develop these offshore resources.<<

Far, far better would be for China to mass produce passive safety Molten Salt Reactors and just leave the filthy, CO2 polluting methane hydrates at the bottom of the ocean!
Posted by Max Green, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 11:21:27 AM
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A good article but two aspects the author could accentuate are:

- significant oil under the Spratly islands may attract China apart from problematic methane hydrates

- Oil-gas value may not be an essential factor. The military value of key reefs in the Spratly may be sufficient for China to militarise (base build) them.

Pete
see my Spratly Island article http://gentleseas.blogspot.com.au/2015/09/chinas-anti-submarine-asw-capabilities.html
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 3:27:50 PM
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Sorry, this is off on a slight tangent, but you mentioned the Gulf of Tonkin Incident. Just so you know, this was a false flag operation- it never happened. It was a complete fabrication.

"Over 1,100 pages of previously classified Vietnam-era transcripts released this week by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee highlight the fact that several Senators knew that the White House and the Pentagon had deceived the American people over the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident.

It would take over thirty years for the truth to emerge that the Aug. 4, 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident, where US warships were apparently attacked by North Vietnamese PT Boats – an incident that kicked off US involvement in the Vietnam war – was a staged event that never actually took place.

The LBJ Presidential tapes, declassified and released in 2001, prove that LBJ knew the Tonkin incident never happened. After dressing down his Defence Secretary Robert McNamara for misleading him, Johnson then discussed how to politically spin the non-event and escalate it as justification for air strikes."
https://theupliftingcrane.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/gulf-of-tonkin-was-a-staged-false-flag-event/
Posted by BJelly, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 3:35:38 PM
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Operation Northwoods 1962 for Cuba was a trial of false flag warfare. Pres J Kennedy rejected it - he died.
Vietnam's torpedo boats may not have fired. Mysterious torpedoes could vandalise the Spratly tsunami fields. Let's hope the US doesn't want to experiment on the Great Barren Reef.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 8:57:05 PM
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Well, it's an interesting proposition - without much supporting evidence, other than China’s high demand for energy which can not be met from fossil fuels alone. Methane hydrates are stable at seabed high pressure and low temperature where they are found but very volatile at surface atmospheric pressure and temperature. Getting the stuff to the surface and then onshore for industrial remains problematic.

That said, it is recognised that China always takes the long-term view. On the other hand curbing climate change is dependent on immediate action to drastically reduce carbon emissions or contend with very dangerous climate change this century.

More certain is that China, in partnership with Bill Gates, is building the worlds first Gen IV Nuclear Reactor with capacity demonstration around 2030. Gen IV is expected to run on nuclear waste, run on a single load for 60 years and produce a waste product with a life of 300 years. Nice if true.
Posted by Agnostic of Mittagong, Sunday, 4 October 2015 2:08:38 PM
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