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Racists and Jihadis both have the right of free speech : Comments

By Marko Beljac, published 20/7/2015

One is in favour of speech for views one despises for otherwise one is not in favour of free speech.

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Yes Marko but they don't have a right to use a taxpayer funded forum to express those expressions of hate; nor do they have a right to indoctrinate innocent others with their obscene expressions of unrivalled hate or advocate ritual beheadings, gang rape or harming the entirely peaceful innocent!

In my view what they advocate be visited on innocent others, should be reserved exclusively, just for them!

If they were the ones required to shoot the guns someone else had loaded; and in harm's way, they'd likely have far less to say!?

So as you sow, so also should you reap.
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 20 July 2015 10:16:24 AM
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Marko: The racist and neo-fascist groups are led by a small collection of buffoons.

Their arguments are outlandishly absurd and widely seen as being so.

One could argue that racist and neo-fascist groups, such as the United Patriots Front and Reclaim Australia,

A racist grouping, consisting of a neo-fascist presence, known as "Reclaim Australia,"

The real purpose behind these protests is the restoration of a racist, thoroughly socially conservative, white Australia that history has long passed by.

that racist groups engage in violent acts, that indeed such acts of violence are an intrinsic part of their modus operandi and so these groups need to be confronted.

Many of the everyday participants of Reclaim Australia are lowly working class people, if not part of the urban and rural underclass, that have been hard hit by globalisation.

The racist and neo-fascist groups are led by a small collection of buffoons.

For the racists and neo-fascists national exposure is golden, and the granting of it by the Left constitutes a significant victory.

Well done Marko, I couldn't have written a better take on Mark Antony's speech if I tried. "I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him."

Marko: Let us assume the worst of Zaky Mallah. That is that he was a jihadist, is a jihadist, and used the bully pulpit of ABC Q&A to promote the jihadi worldview. That is to say he spoke in favour of radical Islamist ideology which included a generalised call for a jihad to set up an Islamic Caliphate that covers the entire Muslim world.

We don't have to assume the worst. He has shown us just what he & his breatheren are on about. I'm in favour of Mallah appearing on Q & A It allows people to see just what the moslem, including moderates, want to force onto Australia, indeed not only the moslem World. They, including the moderates, have stated so many times.
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 20 July 2015 10:47:17 AM
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Well I think of the money that the tax payer has to fork out to pay for police in attendance. Islam is a monothesist religion, and quite honestly like certain Christian sects they have their fanatics. But anti-Islam is growing around the world. It is the Sharia laws they want to bring into an adopted culture that people don't like. We are not a theocracy like Saudi Arabia, and Iran. But IS or ISIS is not or should not be associated with main stream Islam, anymore than the KKK should be with Christianity. Look at Israel. You have the liberal Jewish people and then the Jewish sect that is very very strict in comparison.

In Australia State laws over-ride any religious law, as religion is separate from State. Personally when I was young and living in UK, my family were Roman Catholics and my father would not let me join the Girl Guides run by the Anglican church because it was necessary for me to attend church.
A historical hangup from Henry VIII day.

As far as these riots. Both sides to me are ignorant, it is not racism it is religious bigotry. Paul Hanson saying she feared the spread of Islam. Shhhhht.

I think the wearing of the full cover of face and body, not the scarf which is pretty I think, is an insult to us women who do not cover our faces and don't kid yourself, some Muslim men do view women who do not as morally loose and not God fearing (in their religious and cultural views) but we are not living in Saudi Arabia.
Posted by Bush bunny, Monday, 20 July 2015 12:09:29 PM
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Bush Bunny, "don't kid yourself, some Muslim men do view women who do not as morally loose"

The defence of veils and those all-covering tents was waged by the women themselves, by feminists and by the Left. The women wanted them and it was their 'right' they said and still do.

Just as the strength of the Roman Catholic Church was (and is) due to the devotion of women, who rule in the home and make their children and spouses go to Sunday Mass, so too it is the women who are the strength and backbone of Islam, fundamentalist Islam too.

As I might see it, a psychiatrist is necessary to explain the apparent 'oddity' (to be diplomatic), but at the end of the day 'tent rights' rule and that applies even where others are obliged to remove apparel and publicly display identity before entry
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 20 July 2015 1:14:51 PM
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What an uninformative load of nonsense, Marko, aimed at ensuring free speech for seditionists, jihadists and other undesirables
“The real purpose behind these protests is the restoration of a racist, thoroughly socially conservative, white Australia that history has long passed by.”
You do not know that.You only went to the lefty meetings. Reclaiming the Australian way of life from Islamists has nothing to do with the colour of their skin, but with their fanaticism in their attempts to distort and disrupt our society. It does not constitute a basis for you to concoct your dishonest, baseless slogans.
Do you also want free speech for paedophiles and murderers?
Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 20 July 2015 1:26:19 PM
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Paedophiles and murderers already have it Leo, if last nights 60 minutes is anything to go by.
Posted by Bugsy, Monday, 20 July 2015 1:46:12 PM
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