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Lessons from Srebrenica : Comments

By Jed Lea-Henry, published 17/7/2015

In the absence of a strong state, identity-based violence is always just moments away

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"Lesson one: In the absence of a strong state, identity-based violence is always just moments away"

Or more likely, strong ethnic identities will outlive any utopian-propaganda-based state.

"As the Yugoslav state, along with the common Yugoslav identity, began to fade"

Was there ever a strong Yugoslavian identity?
That these peoples so readily reverted to regional ethnic "territories" would indicate there was not.

The same ethnic territory revival happened with the collapse of another "strong" state: the Soviet Union.

The lesson we should have learned was that no political magic tricks can unite a people who aren't *already* united in their identity.

With the multicultural immigration snowball continuing in the West, apparently this is a lesson still not learned (sigh).

Where will Australia's Srebrenica be?
Posted by Shockadelic, Friday, 17 July 2015 10:00:11 AM
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Another context deficient and fact free article about the Bosnian war.
These questions were addressed over a decade ago, see the testimony of General Phillipe Morillon, General Sefer Halilovic or Major General Lewis McKenzie.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 17 July 2015 11:20:30 AM
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Humankind often does not learn from lessons. Witness the gradual Balkanisation of Australia, thanks to our ridiculous immigration and 'refugee' programmes.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 17 July 2015 1:01:38 PM
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The whole Srebrenica 'genocide' narrative is a fraud.

About 500-1000 men were executed when Srebrenica fell, for their part in massacring well over 2,000 Serb civilians in the Srebrenica area in the 18 months prior to the event. The rest were mostly killed in combat in their attempt to escape through the forests.

Even the 8,000 figure is a fraud. It was a convenient political figure latched on to, to give the Clinton administration its much sought after justification to bomb Serbia and, in the wider picture, destroy Yugoslavia – the last functioning socialist society in Europe.

Thanks to the sacrosanct aura that now surrounds that particular Srebrenica massacre (as opposed to all the other massacres that took place in the context of the Serb-Bosnian conflict), the West has a cast-iron R2P privilege to bomb, destabilise and invade whichever side its vested interests dictate.
Posted by Killarney, Friday, 17 July 2015 10:56:36 PM
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Ethnic cleansing

What does this mean in layman speak
Not fancy academic, fudge what's happening with fancy labels, talk

It simply means Tribal Territoral Warfare,
One tribe slaughters the other over control of the land

Also the correct term for terrorist attack would be
Territorial attack.
Posted by CHERFUL, Saturday, 18 July 2015 9:27:07 PM
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Killarney,
That's exactly correct, it wasn't a "genocide" it was a battle, most of the casualties among Islamist fighters occurred during an attempt to break out of the siege, then there were revenge attacks against male civilians after the fall of the town. The NATO commanders at the time could see what was about to happen, that the Srebrenica garrison was using the safe haven as a base from which they raided local Serb towns, massacring thousands and that the Serb militiamen whose families had been murdered were bound to take revenge upon the Muslims. What people like Jed don't understand is that the Bosnian Islamists and the foreign Jihadis (Chechens, Arabs, Asians) in the Balkans during the 1990's were behaving just like Al Nusra or Boko Haram do today, they even murdered other "moderate" Muslims who refused to align with the Izedbegovich regime.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 19 July 2015 8:47:21 AM
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