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My mother told me : Comments

By John Tomlinson, published 16/7/2015

Tony Abbott doesn't measure up to any of his predecessors.

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Try to learn something about the science of climate, Aiden, and be careful not to trust the IPCC. Pachauri has resigned as head, so I suppose they are looking for another crooked railway engineer, but one who will not sexually molest the female staff.Carter is a reputable source, on climate science.

When asked for science to justify your point of view, showing a measurable effect of human emissions on climate,you were unable to reference it because it does not exist, and you referred us to the IPCC. This is a body which has made predictions of warming based on the CO2 content of the atmosphere.It feeds science into computer models, and the results are invariably wrong At a time when the CO2 content has built up to an allegedly dangerous level, global warming stopped. Their understanding of the science is flawed.
Their “science” on human caused warming, when available science cannot show any measurable effect of human emissions on climate, is that it is 95% certain.They originally said it was 99% certain, and for undisclosed reasons revised it down recently. They do not seem to understand that they are meant to present science, not answer questions as if they are playing dice in a casino.
The human effect is trivial, which is the reason that it is not measurable.
This is the fact you refuse to acknowledge, through ignorance or dishonesty, but you can refer us to no science which shows otherwise..
A pertinent comment on climategate is:
“Emails between Climategate scientists, however, show a concerted effort to hide rather than disseminate underlying evidence and procedures.
“I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI [Freedom of Information] Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the process,”writes Phil Jones,
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/
Posted by Leo Lane, Sunday, 26 July 2015 1:45:02 PM
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Leo,
Considering that you're so pig ignorant of the science that I have to keep explaining it to you in this thread, your calls for me to learn about the science of climate are pure hypocrisy!

Am I right in thinking you think a "reputable scientist" is one who tells you what you want to hear? You whinge when I don't cite sources, you whinge when I refer you to a serious criticism of a paper you link to, and now you're whinging about my linking to the IPCC's report of the science!

You have no evidence at all for your claim that the human effect is trivial. Considering the huge increase in greenhouse gases that human activity has resulted in, I regard your claim as extraordinary.

Science of chaotic systems like the atmosphere deals with probabilities. That's the way the world works; it does not equate to playing dice.
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 26 July 2015 8:48:30 PM
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No, aiden, the language of the IPCC is that of playing dice.
Robert Carter is not the only honest climate scientist.
David Archibald writes about the failure of the world to warm.
“Global warming alarmism has been compared to the Y2K scare. I think that a more apposite analogy is the internet bubble on the world’s stockmarkets. In that bubble, tens of thousands of the world’s most intelligent and highly paid people succumbed to a mass hysteria. T
All the institutions which should be guarding us against the climate change rent seekers and carpetbaggers have abrogated their responsibility. The worst, and by this I mean the CSIRO, are actively conniving against the interests of the Australian people. Our largest companies have become rent seekers, promoting their version of clean coal technology. This perverse ideology has corrupted so many. The money changers are in the temple. The story now gets even more bizarre, because all the wailing from the CSIRO and others is in the face of a temperature that has not changed. Figure 12 shows lower troposphere temperature anomalies in the southern hemisphere since satellite records began in 1979. This is the part of the world we live in. There is no doubt that this temperature record is correct as it agrees with weather balloon data. While the southern hemisphere, lower troposphere temperature is not quite as constant as the Northern Star, the trend is flat. Antarctica has cooled appreciably over the same period. In the Northern Hemisphere, the United States and Greenland were both warmer in the 1930s than they are now. The ability to believe in global warming in the face of a failure to warm, proving that theory wrong, demonstrates an enormous capacity for self-delusion
http://www.davidarchibald.info/papers/Failure%20To%20Warm.pdf

You are unable to refer us to any science showing any measurable effect of human emissions on climate.
I have not whinged , aiden. Ignorance and dishonesty is all that I expect from a fraud backer.I merely demonstrated you to be bereft of science, with no valid basis.
Just accept the science, and cease support of the fraud.
Posted by Leo Lane, Sunday, 26 July 2015 10:35:42 PM
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