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Anzac exclusions: making a nation ignorant of rape : Comments

By Rob Cover, published 29/4/2015

Anzac Day is broadly acknowledged as a day which has been marked as somehow sacred, protected against supposed indignities and exclusive of ideas which might challenge the 'purity' of the nation and of masculine militarism.

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Be careful Rob speaking the truth about sacred ANZAC Day.Malcolm Turnbull just had an SBS Reporter sacked for tweeting truths about this day.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 7:52:16 AM
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McIntyre's tweet included "Wonder if the poorly-read, largely white, nationalist drinkers and gamblers pause today to consider the horror that all mankind suffered."

Nothing could be more offensive and further from the truth. On all of those counts, that certainly did not characterize the 2000 people who attended the 10 a.m. commemorative service that I attended in Warragul.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 8:44:17 AM
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Arjay,

'....truths about this day"

Do you mean the actual day of the landing or successive commemorative ANZAC Days or the 100th Anniversary one?
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 8:45:02 AM
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Why does this author focus on the masculine militarism of war? Are there any other types of war? All the negative and shameful behaviour is carried out by men because up until recently only men went to war. It is easy to point the finger at one particular gender when only one gender is involved. Men do incredibly courageous things in war as well and have saved us from tyranny on many occasions.

What is the point of highlighting the masculinity of those who did immoral acts under war time conditions? Why not just point out that immoral acts were done by human beings unless you are trying to suggest that had women been at the front none of this would have happened?

Of course women cannot rape men so that would not happen but is rape the only atrocity or even the worst one? Women are equally able to inflict the most heinous torture given the right circumstances.

The past had its good parts and its bad parts. Men did what they did and women did what they did. Unless you can prove that war would have been different had the gender roles been reversed then it is rather cowardly to try and suggest that there is a fundamental flaw in men that means they would be the more atrocious.

Some of the things our soldiers did might challenge the ‘purity of the nation’ but they do not challenge masculine militarism unless you can provide arguments that feminine militarism would be any better.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 12:46:49 PM
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I have only one thing to say on all the Anzac events, and this is from one who had relatives serve and injured in this WW1 conflict.
All the suffering and loss is only because Britain is an ally of us and of course being a member of the British commonwealth, we were politically pressured to participate. Our pollies back in the day should have stood up and told the Empire to basically get lost! No one was actually invading Australia at the time, so why the heck should any Australians die in the name of defending the empire on european soil? madness is an understatement!

This was an opportunity at the time to have deep discussions about the relevance of being 'bossed' around by our former colonial masters, federation in 1901 did not go far enough in my humble opinion.

However, I'm probably out of step with the mindset and psychological status quo of those times. If such a situation was hypothetically happening today, do you think Australians would volunteer to rush over there and get involved because of the British empire??. . . err.. hardly likely!

That must be my old Scotch-Irish blood coming out! lol....
Posted by Rojama, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 1:01:28 PM
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Rob is too young to remember that it was the women's vote that kept Menzies in power and forced conscript male youths, not yet men because they could not vote or drink alcohol, to war (Vietnam).

Just more proof that one sex is not superior to the other as imagined by Rob, who is a product of the feminist dominated education system and systemic politically correctness that prevail in Oz.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 29 April 2015 1:05:14 PM
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