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The death penalty is a wider issue than the Bali Nine : Comments

By Xavier Symons, published 10/3/2015

The sporadic executions of Australian citizens in foreign jails, however, ought to spur us on to demand the abolition of the death penalty internationally.

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All predictable stuff of the wet liberal-left variety with banal comments.

"The sporadic executions of Australian citizens in foreign jails, however, ought to spur us on to demand the abolition of the death penalty internationally."

O yes and ban the Bomb, global warming, and also war...how bout violence against men?

I looked at the author's website http://www.bioedge.org/ and found another post:

"British mum becomes surrogate for son’s baby"

much more intriguing http://www.bioedge.org/index.php/bioethics/bioethics_article/11356 :

"The relationships of the three people are tangled, to say the least. Anne-Marie is the mother of Kyle, and both the mother and the grandmother of Miles. Miles is both the half-brother and the son of Kyle. Kyle is both the son and the “husband” of Anne-Marie."
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 11:08:05 AM
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Wet-liberal?
The Mercator based Bioedge website is run by the right-wing deeply misogynist outfit Opus Dei.
You know the people that practice bodily mortification on a daily basis.
Would you send your children to a school run by people who practice and/or advocate such practice?
They are also in the ranks of those who are "skeptical" about humanly caused climate change, and pretend that humankind is not faced with an all the way down the line problem of over-population, pretending that humankind can keep on increasing its numbers indefinitely.
No doubt that when Pope Francis releases his much anticipated communication re humankind and the very real humanly caused environmental crisis various Opus Dei propaganda hacks will be in the fore-front of attempting to shout him down. Those from the (USA) based Opus Dei outfit Ethics & Public Policy propaganda factory for instance.

No mention too that the Rick Perry the very right-wing "catholic" Governor of Texas has overseen at least 274 public executions during his term(s) of office. Perry may or may not be a member of Opus Dei, but he has deep associations with it.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 11:25:41 AM
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Off Topic

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/03/10/-1-billion-cut-to-car-industry-abandoned.html :

"Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane will unveil the change of heart in Adelaide on Tuesday ahead of a visit by Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Wednesday."

Looks like Abbott's best policy is no-change or to adopt Labor policies.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 11:26:11 AM
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I would not advocate the Death Penalty in this country because we have a very corrupt and easily corruptible legal system, Indonesia has a different system, three judges with investigative powers, they don't tolerate the swami solicitors that get away with murder and hoodwink juries that operate in Australia, it is bit like "the high court" but they trust three, don't need seven. in this particular case there is no question of their guilt, and they knew of the penalty. The suggestion that there is no "humane" way to kill is not believable, I have been "put to sleep" a number of times and warned "you may not wake up" I did not experience any aggravation at all, so the claim that prisoners suffered in agony is bunk! Rehabilitation? well very useful, they can be "persuaded" to do the bidding of corrupt "officials" contributing to the sea of corruption that exists through our society the screaming that is going on would be better used to change our "legal system" to something that is more accountable.
Posted by lockhartlofty, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 1:28:05 PM
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"The Australian government, media and people seldom speak with one voice. With the impending execution of the Bali 9 ringleaders, we are experiencing one of those rare moments when they do" says Xavier.

Tell me Xavier, just where do you live, an inner city apartment in Sydney, Melbourne or Canberra? It most certainly is not out here in the real Australia.

I have heard a few ladies, who would agree with you, but the men are saying, where do we send the ammunition, to help them get it over with, & stop the bleeding heart blood running out of our TVs every news session. I have not heard a single bloke who has any sympathy for this scum, & they almost scream, "don't send this rubbish back here"
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 2:19:55 PM
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dogma 1 which must always be quoted by those argueing against the death penalty.

'The death penalty is not a deterrent.'

What an idiotic thing to say even know some academic will quote a totally irrelevant study. By all means argue against the death penalty but don't insult the intelligence of the average person who knows that it is a deterrent. To what degree it is a deterrent can be debated.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 2:30:33 PM
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