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Angelism and bestialism: a division of the soul : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 5/3/2015

This leads directly to a triumphalist humanism that dangerously underestimates our capacity for evil. We find ourselves singing along with the Beatles 'All you need is love.'

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"In short, it is only the Church that stands against outbreaks of angelism and bestialism because only the church works with an accurate anthropology that marries the two."

Religious tactics 101: invent an imaginary problem and offer your brand of snake oil as the only solution.

We are rapidly approaching the point where people offered disastrous advice by hopelessly unqualified religious counsellors will be able to sue for compensation, queuing up behind all the sexually abused children. Do you really want to be a part of that, Peter?
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 5 March 2015 6:44:18 AM
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"You are dust and to dust you will return,"
That just about sums up the writings of Sells.
What is it about you that you keep heaping coals of fire on the heads of scientists. We live in a real world, not some abstract universe controlled by an abstract being called God.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Thursday, 5 March 2015 7:38:57 AM
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<<A person suffering from angelism may be described as, "Being like god in one's freedom and omniscience," or suffering from "abstraction of the self from the self">>

But we ARE God. The aforementioned "self" is a false notion, referring merely to one's body-mind that has nothing to do with us, which is of dust and to dust it will return - being detached from this body-mind and instead recognising our own true and divine nature, is not a mental illness but the most healthy and wonderful thing that can happen to us.

(obviously this doesn't justify going around in the world believing that our body-mind are free and omniscient - they are not)
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 5 March 2015 7:45:00 AM
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Therefore, Yuyutsu, we are not God, regardless of the status of the self.
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 5 March 2015 8:24:14 AM
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The whole article relies almost exclusively on regurgitated hearsay opinion, which is presented as some sort of ipso facto, evidence to support the authors beliefs?

Yes sure there is an internal battle between good and evil; but no man can tell us what it is.

No one man can assert with any authority, that the practice of responsible birth control; and or safe sex is inherently evil; albeit those supporting those harm creating opinions, may well be?

Normal sex between consenting adults and the God given sexual drive is not part of the problem, whereas abnormal celibacy and absolutism, may well be?

In the esoteric tradition i.e., the Arch Angel Lucifer was massively maligned because he always came bearing evil or bad or unwelcome tidings, and as we do now with the messenger, pilloried for being the bearer of bad news!

And as for God appearing among us as a manifested Man, all we have supporting that belief, is words written 50-100 years after the alleged event, and reliant on hearsay on hearsay (he said she said) evidence rather than so much as a single eyewitness account!

Moreover those accounts appear to have been subject to plagiarism and serious fanciful embellishment, to fill in the missing parts that would cast doubt on the entire story, or that the man was the predicted Messiah!

And brought into further serious doubt, given no religious leader can place his hands on or cure the sick, part of the alleged promise of the so called Messiah! Nor can such a man demonstrably free of the promised holy spirit, forgive sin!

Peter is free to believe what he will. However the scientists he regularly bags deal in facts, while his best is limited to fairy tales; and stories to frighten the children and the weak minded; and or like his ilk, exercise self conferred control?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 5 March 2015 12:05:24 PM
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Dear Peter,

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You wrote :

The medical model of mental health with its focus on brain pathology has dismissed the mind (read soul) as irrelevant.

What is mind? No matter !
What is matter? Never mind !
What is the soul? That is immaterial !

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Saturday, 7 March 2015 12:55:26 AM
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