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Breaking the chain of life in Bali : Comments

By Suresh Wijeyeratne, published 5/2/2015

Why am I affected by the impending death sentences for the Bali nine members Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan?

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Here we have it then...the life of Brian less Monty Python!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 5 February 2015 7:00:47 AM
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Suresh Wijeyeratne asks " Why am I affected by the impending death sentences for the Bali nine members Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan?"

I'll tell you why Suresh.

You consider yourself a member of the educated and morally correct class who think they know everything, and you have been programmed by your peers to advocate certain "progressive" causes without ever thinking about them. It is no surprise that you can think of no rational reason why you do not support the death penalty. You can only explain it in terms of an amorphous philosophical waffle which you hope will make you sound both brilliant and incredibly humane.

The rule of thumb in heroin deaths is that it is 1 Kg of heroin per life lost through overdoses, one through murder, and several families torn apart through having family members addicted. At 8.4 kilos of heroin, Chan and Sukhamaron were major players in this trade, they could not care less who died, or who's families were destroyed, all they wanted was the money. They knew the risks, they considered the profits and the consequences, and they got caught. They were the worst kinds of criminals who could not care less if your own loved ones got addicted, robbed, murdered, or overdosed, so stop blubbering over them.

40 to 50 Indonesians die every day from drug overdoses and the President of Indonesia is doing exactly the right thing by executing hard drug dealers who were warned, and warned, about what would happen if they were caught. The Indonesians have been very humane by not executing all nine of the Bali nine members, only the two kingpins. Indonesia has also done Australia a good turn by doing what our own wimpy government is too pansified to do. Only last week, government authorities were wringing their hands about the consequences to society of Australia's new "ice" epidemic and saying that they do not know how to combat it. It is this attitude of helplessness in the face of a clear and present danger which enrages a public which demands action
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 5 February 2015 8:19:32 AM
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I couldn't agree more - there is no black and white when we are talking about the life of a thinking, breathing, feeling sentient being. Most of life exists within the grey area you mentioned and the human construct of justice is proven fallible. There is no doubt that a crime was committed. There is also no doubt that hope and humanity should combine to create a world in which individuals are allowed to change, grow, improve themselves and heal whatever it was that led them to criminal acts. As a Counsellor and a loving person, I cannot believe that anyone is truly beyond redemption. No one deserves to be given up on in such an extreme way as to actually extinguish their life. There is no clearer way of impressing on someone that they are worth less than nothing. The death penalty tells them that they are not even allowed to exist anymore. No one should be allowed to choose the death of another. Violence begets violence.
Posted by TamaraA, Thursday, 5 February 2015 8:24:12 AM
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LEGO
There's a lot of heart attacks from butter too isn't there, so presumably people trafficking in butter should be shot for the same reasons? Plus a lot of people die from cars too don't they? We could even do a mathematical calculation linking cars trafficked per death, just like you've done. So presumably car dealers should be put up against the wall and shot too?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Thursday, 5 February 2015 8:44:34 AM
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What a load of unadulterated tosh. All those words, not a lick of sense.

>>I struggle to see us as a human unit when witnessing the lack of humanity in passing death penalties.<<

This "human unit"? Is it the same one that allows millions to starve in Ethiopia?

http://www.wfp.org/stories/10-things-everyone-should-know-about-hunger-ethiopia

Is it the perhaps same one that sees entire countries emptied by a pointless civil war?

http://syrianrefugees.eu/

Does your "human unit" perhaps incorporate the activities of ultra-religious murderers?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-13809501

Meanwhile, you are whining about two individuals who, through their own actions, the consequences of which they were fully aware, are now facing those consequences?

You're weird.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 5 February 2015 8:50:43 AM
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These two men have run drugs to Australia before and are not the young innocents they are depicted as. Hopefully their death will be a deterrent to future drug importers. The Indonesian government has enough courage to carry out the execution while in Australia our slippery lawyers have them returned to the street and back in their BMWs with little more than a suspended sentence. It would be nice to send a plane full of Ibrahams, Bandidos, and Hells Angels etc. for a holiday to Bali each with a bag of meth or cocaine.
Posted by SILLER, Thursday, 5 February 2015 9:20:23 AM
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