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Green energy is the past, not the future : Comments

By Viv Forbes, published 7/1/2015

Three centuries ago, the world ran on green power. Wood was used for heating and cooking, charcoal for smelting and smithing, wind or water-power for pumps mills and ships, and whale oil for lamps.

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Green energy is the future if you consider the green in oceans of this planet.
Put CO2 emission trading politics aside and measure and assess ocean algae plant matter, including where ice in polar regions is reported melting more than usual.
Science is only now beginning to really understand.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-01/au-udm010515.php
Posted by JF Aus, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 8:21:21 AM
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How refreshing to read sensible comments on climate change. Does anyone have reports on the beneficial effects that excess CO2 rates have on growing plants. Even if the current "excess" is so microscopic that it cannot have any benefit then the corollary must hold and it cannot be any danger. Any increase is probably better than none
Posted by Dickybird, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 8:29:03 AM
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Nature dictates the amount of co2 in the atmosphere as a balance; Now c02 has been compromised to dangerous levels by human intervention.
With a govt; that states climate change is crap and with a spokesperson to advertise climate change is crap, nothing is about to change.
Australia is a country out of step with the rest of the world, and it's citizens.
The greatest achievement of 2014 was Abbott demolishing the carbon tax, for what reason only known to him and credlin.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 9:02:34 AM
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Whereas I believe our atmospheric scientists when they tell us about the impact of CO2 on our measured rise in world temperature over the last century, I completely agree with Viv when he says "green" energy is taking us back 3 centuries.

There was a good reason why water wheels, windmills, horse power and burning wood couldn't deliver the standard of living we have today on their own. We needed high energy-dense materials such as coal (in the past) and now uranium or thorium to take us to the next level without polluting the air we breath - or increasing our sea and land temperatures excessively.

Watch what the Chinese are doing to address these issues. They are moving to replace their coal plants with nuclear as well as wind power and solar. Wind and solar cannot do it alone as the "Dark" Green advocates will eventually discover after spending billions of dollars unwisely.
Posted by Martin N, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 9:03:40 AM
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Stuff and nonsense.
To solve all problems of global warming, smog, deficit of oil, deficit of food and water, just remove people.
There too many of them and that is the total cause of all problems.
Posted by Robert LePage, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 9:08:14 AM
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The war is not so much on carbon dioxide as on the insulating effects carbon dioxide introduces into the atmosphere.

There are some arguments that are irrefutable. One is that the CO2 in that atmosphere has increased from 250 ppm to over 400ppm since the start of the industrial age and that the source of that increase is the combustion of the carbon in fossil fuels. The second irrefutable fact is that radiated heat leaving the earth is largely in a particular wave length range. The third is that CO2 impedes the escape of radiation of that wave length range. A fourth is that methane is an even more effective impediment to the escape of that radiation, by a factor of about 30.

There is significant evidence that the earth's surface, including its oceans, are gradually increasing in temperature. Significant evidence includes the well documented rise in ocean levels. Since the sixteen measuring sites were established around the Australian coast that rise has averaged well over 3mm per year on the eastern coast. Other evidence may be less reliable but it is surely statistically significant that so many of Australia's hottest years, since records were first collected, have occurred in the most recent two decades.

Scientists are saying that continuing the same practices are likely to increase the rate at which the more dangerous insulator, methane, is introduced to the atmosphere. Therefore we should ease back substantially.

Future generations need the carbon in fossil fuels for essential purposes other than power generation. For all the reasons above we Homo sapiens need to reduce our use of fossil carbon.

China appears to be leading the way in developing a fail safe nuclear option.
Posted by Foyle, Wednesday, 7 January 2015 9:09:08 AM
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