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Computer models in climate science : Comments

By Don Aitkin, published 3/11/2014

A new journal is out, Inference. International Review of Science, and its first issue carries an essay critiquing climate models.

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Good to see that Kininmonth is still trying to make his voice heard above the noise. There have always been doubts about those models, but climate scientists just brush those doubts aside by claims that - after much pushing and poking of variables - they managed to get the models to emulate the past few decades of climate history. Never mind that they cannot point to any record of reliable forecasts - look at how the model performed against known climate history!

Surprised a new journal ran the article though.. in the current climate (pun intended) that instantly labels it..
Posted by Curmudgeon, Monday, 3 November 2014 9:21:41 AM
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Hardly all that surprising! After all, the fossil fuel industry rakes in over four trillion and rising a year; and easily able to afford very favorable paid comment!?
Even so Don and regardless, who cares (gives a rats) who is right or wrong, when simply doing nothing is not an option; and or, all we really need is a rational approach; and an, its the economy stupid, (first and always) paradigm!
What could possibly be wrong with industrial power prices halved by switching to cheaper than coal, thorium?
Which if rolled out attached to industry specific micro grids, could at least halve the current cost of, vastly more reliable and secure, localized industrial energy!
Forget the fact, that there's little or no carbon production included; it's entirely immaterial!
Simply put, this carbon free energy supply; and Aussie invented direct reduction, would enable lowest costing, [lowest carbon footprint in the world,] steel! Ditto aluminum!
Do you have a problem with that or a completely resuscitated local manufacturing base Don?
And what would be the problem with domestic power prices reduced by around 75%, with a conversion to locally produced carbon neutral biogas, driving individually located onsite ceramic fuel cells?
And what's the problem with endless free hot water!? [Apple has cottoned on!]
Perhaps it just because these vastly cheaper options deal out the largely foreign owned and controlled coal industry; (your bosom billionaire buddies?) and or, show the rest of the world, the better (coal free) way, that management always teaches, is a given!
Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door; ditto lowest costing energy!
Just set aside the fact that's it's also clean, and we'll make a completely lucid, debunking rationalist out of you yet Don?
Coal exports at basement bargain fire sale prices, have only become necessary, because we've completely failed to protect and grow our manufacturing base!
Which if properly resuscitated, rationally decentralized and largely based on regional recycling, will succor us (our Grandkids) when the mineral export industry is little more than a few dozen holes in the ground!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 3 November 2014 9:28:34 AM
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So a right wing think tank sets up a "science" journal and low and behold it's full of ring wing think tank talking points supporting their sponsors positions.

They should have just published it in creation science journal, they are taking a similar line I hear.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Monday, 3 November 2014 9:35:56 AM
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HA Ha scrap my last comment they more or less have they other article is a creationist paper. So Don are pushing intelligent design now as well, or does this just point to the quality of the paper about climate models, that the only place it can get published is in a journal like that. Gee i wonder what real scientist think of his paper?
Posted by Cobber the hound, Monday, 3 November 2014 9:42:10 AM
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http://inference-review.com/introduction

"The editors of Inference would prefer to remain anonymous."

Says it all really.
Posted by Bugsy, Monday, 3 November 2014 10:17:22 AM
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now that the prophets have been proven wrong we have the new mantra 'heat hiding in the ocean'. How long do with have to put up with the taxpayer funding this propaganda? No wonder 'science' is given a bad name.
Posted by runner, Monday, 3 November 2014 10:49:32 AM
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