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Experiencing health via the connection : Comments

By Kay Stroud, published 5/9/2014

The new science of epigenetics shows that genes and DNA are not static and do not control our biology, but are controlled by signals from outside the cell, including our positive and negative thoughts.

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"Why don't you hear more about the revolutionary healthcare options and treatments that take into account the mind-body-spirit connection from your local doctor or hospital?"

Because they don't bloody well work. And write this out a thousand times: 'The plural of anecdote is not data'.

Next!
Posted by Jon J, Friday, 5 September 2014 8:12:41 AM
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Ahhh, so this is how the good the bad and the ugly are passed on! It's the luggage tags!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 5 September 2014 9:40:30 AM
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Reminds me of a girl I once knew.

She told me her method of contraception was to lie there after unprotected intercourse and *will* the sperm away.

Needless to say, this belief turned out to be good for getting genes into the next generation.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Friday, 5 September 2014 10:44:56 AM
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Dear Jon,

<<Because they don't bloody well work.>>

That's all relative to what one wants to achieve.

I don't know enough about the paradigm described in the article and it may well be that this paradigm fails to repair one's body as it claims, but it seems that it does give peace to those who take its approach - and isn't this what we all actually want?

Most importantly, it keeps people away from the doctors, whose mechanical and atheistic approach to life is often harmful to one's spirit.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 5 September 2014 10:51:13 AM
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It would help if Kay had actually done some research on epigentics before coming to the bogus conclusion that epigenetics means that the mind controls what happens in cells.

A start would be here http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/epigenetic-influences-and-disease-895
Posted by Agronomist, Friday, 5 September 2014 11:13:19 AM
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The placebo effect has been noted by western medicine for a long time. It is a real and amazing effect, but using it is a moral minefield.

Doctors don't generally discuss placebo treatments with patients because their efficacy is patchy, what works for some will not work for others. It is generally thought to be seriously unethical to prescribe treatments that the doctor knows is mechanistically null (i.e. intrisically bogus).

They sometimes appear to work, but whether it is taking a sugar pill or having a herbal tea, drinking 'treated' water or praying, they all (sometimes) work by the same mechanism, but that isn't epigenetics.
Posted by Bugsy, Friday, 5 September 2014 11:34:12 AM
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