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A bitter taste? Todd Carney, masculine football culture and scandal : Comments

By Rob Cover, published 3/7/2014

The squeamishness of the public, media and NRL officials alike is, of course, not real disgust but the theatrical performance or pretence of disgust that is used to shame Carney in the context of scandal reporting.

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That's not how we got on the hiss when I was a very young alpha male!
The fact that some of his contemplates see nothing wrong or try to somehow excuse this extreme behavior, is quite astonishing!
What comes next?
Some male bonding, gang raping some doped out drunken school girl?
I mean, there's a reason we have lines and or draw them!
Send the "retard" back to kindy, where he can argue with his peers over who's turn it is, with the tin toys in the sandpit!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 3 July 2014 9:56:14 AM
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That Carney was sacked was purely a marketing decision.

The future of the professional game that the NRL represents is in the hands of i) advertisers and sponsors and ii) spectators.

The former would rather their "brand" is not represented by an individual who thinks that having someone take a picture of him urinating in his own mouth is acceptable behaviour in the eyes of the general public.

The latter would rather not represent such an act to their children as acceptable behaviour either: "Look kids, this is what you will be getting up to when you make the first grade. Neat, eh?"

Neither the game itself, nor the talent of the individual, nor the level of vulgarity of the act itself on a male-bonding scale of one to ten, is in any way relevant.

The prism through which this act should be viewed is not whether it was inappropriate in the context of blokey sports, but whether it damages the marketing plans of the club and its related supporting organizations.
Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 3 July 2014 4:58:38 PM
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a somewhat fatherless generation will continue to produce these kinds of results.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 3 July 2014 5:34:07 PM
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Why do some people believe this incident is worth bringing up on OLO ? I for one don't need to be reminded of the primitive mentality of australian football & players. Football masculine ? Don't make me laugh ! Stupid & idotic yes, but masculine, NO!
Ironmen are masculine, ironwomen or rather females unfortunately are too. There's nothing masculine about spitting, splurting, urinating & groping sweaty blokes.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 3 July 2014 6:47:11 PM
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While I find TC's behaviour vile, as a libertarian I find it troubling when a person's career is terminated for personal issues that have nothing to do with the job he is hired for.

I understand and applaud the NRL's desire to clean up its reputation and its culture of loutish behaviour, but I believe that there should be limits to how deep the workplace should intrude into one's private life. Abusive behaviour to women (some potentially under age) on tour I can fully understand. Childish and unhygienic behaviour that affects no one else, but is published by some one else leading to a life time ban, I believe it is over reach. Considering that there is Majak Daw who is charged with rape, but is allowed to continue playing, I believe that there is an alarming lack of consistency.

I do believe that there is a line in the sand over which people should not cross, I don't presume to judge where it should be, but I don't believe it should be dictated by social media
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 4 July 2014 5:53:38 AM
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If I were the judge I would charge the person who published the photo because it is that person who had the wharped mentality of making this public. But then he was a footballer too wasn't he ?
At this stage being a moron is still permissibble & by the looks of it encouraged under australian law so why don't we all just drop this idiotic subject & discuss important matters.
Posted by individual, Friday, 4 July 2014 6:29:07 AM
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