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It's time to call a spade a spade: Israel and apartheid : Comments

By Paul Duffill, published 21/5/2014

There's one thing experts can agree on: Israel and especially the Palestinian territories are in - or are rapidly heading towards a situation of apartheid.

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Is the Muslim war against Christians apartheid? Is the Muslim war against Jews apartheid? Is the Muslim war against Women apartheid? Is the Muslim war against Gays apartheid? What a load of twaddle in this fictional piece; Islam is a clear and present danger to Civilisation and needs to be treated as such, more vigorous action needs to be pursued to push that Djinn back into its leprous bottle.
Posted by McCackie, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 7:33:12 AM
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I am sick of hearing Israel is an Apartheid state. On the bus in jerusalem yesterday a muslim women sat next to an Israeli soldier and next to him an orthodox jew praying the picture said a 1000 words. Muslims, Christians and Jews move freely around and together in major israeli cities. They attend university, cinemas, shops,restaurants,schools etc together. They share the same beaches. Have you ever visited the park in Jerusalem or Tel aviv on a friday full to overflowing with jewish and muslim children playing.
The sad situation that has arisen uniquely in hebron is a result of Arabs Massacring jews dating back to 1929 and continuing.Hebron is where the Jewish patriachs and matriachs are buried and so Jews have lived there since before Abraham. In 1929 67 Jews were murdered in hebron- their homes and synagogues destroyed - and the few hundred survivors were relocated to Jerusalem. The aftermath left Hebron barren of Jews for the first time in thousands of years.when they returned in trickles to their homes years later. the arabs population did not welcome them and so this unique situation arose
Posted by SC, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 8:04:16 AM
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If Israel defines itself in law as a Jewish state, how can it not be an apartheid state for anyone living there who is not Jewish?
And if in support of this Jewish state all non-Jews are encouraged/forced to leave Israel, how can that not be ethnic cleansing?
Ms Bishop as our Minister for Foreign Affairs wants to think carefully about the quagmire she is walking us into. She may be putting Australia in the wrong both legally and morally.
All of this would resolve itself overnight if Israel would simply declare that there exists one state between the river and the sea, that it will be ruled under a democratic system of one person/one vote and grant a full right of return with full and equal citizenship to all those displaced since Israel declared itself a state in the 1940's.
Posted by halduell, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 8:17:12 AM
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good call/paul..timming is everything..got a few dots..that are joining/at the right\place..in time..

snide*aside..[how is/them/'special'..id's..so jews/can\pass/freely..while-the rest..get*red-tape?

In recent/months,..Ultra-Orthodox..and right wing Jews were screaming murder,..mentioning
the Sergei Court..as an antecedent...[amoung/other..global..'pro-jects]..

Sergei Court,,is the nickname of the property..at Heleni HaMalka 13, in downtown Jerusalem...It was named after Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich,..son of Czar Alexander II..and brother of Alexander III.

The building was constructed..in 1890..for the joy of pilgrims belonging..to Russian aristocracy...Over time it was occupied by Israel,..which placed in it..the Ministry of Agriculture...

http://www.roitov.com/articles/cenacle.htm

On March 23,2011,..PM Netanyahu was scheduled to visit Moscow.
48 Hours..before leaving Israel,..the Russian government announced that the visit is cancelled..unless Israel returns the Sergei Court. Within 24 hours,..the Ministry was evacuated..(See Selling King David's Tomb).
http://www.roitov.com/articles/apifior.htm

A campaign is conducted..by Israeli right..claiming that a similar event..is planned with the Cenacle..and King David's Tomb..*below it.

"Final..Agreement..Needs..to*be Signed"

The visit..of the Pope..at the place is significant..because it includes..a mass..[last-supper/mass]..despite not being..one of the allowed prayer days...Moreover,..Israeli officials..have acknowledged that an agreement..is ready.

[clearly/some..could\seek..to prevent/this][and set-up/arabs/russians/chinese]..to take../the\fall...for/red/flag[black-flag-event]..[using/..say..a mal-asian/plain.]

Speaking for the Latin Patriarchate,..David Noihouse acknowledged that Christians..want an agreement regularizing prayer rights..in the Cenacle.*"This is a central place..[last-upper/place]..for Christians worldwide,..and right now..it is possible to pray..there only with special..!permits.

In certain sense,..the Church was born there,*..it is the most natural thing..for Christians to want to visit and pray there..as mother mary spake..in fatima.

Hanna Bandekobsky..(English spelling may vary)..is the Director of the Program..for Jewish-Christian Relations of the Jerusalem Center. On May 20,..ahead of the visit,..she gave an interview to Yediot Ahronot.

She said,.."Now there is a final agreement..that needs to be signed; it includes many details...As part of it.. the Catholics tried to introduced prayer rights in the room,..but the details have not yet been published."

Right wing activists were stopped..from visiting the Cenacle..by the police...The latter told the intruders.."It is a church up there"..[while secretly filmed.]

The video..was uploaded to the internet..and is now a source of Jewish religious hysteria;..*"King David's Tomb..*will be given to the Vatican,"..they say in a variety of ways,..despite the event being unlikely...as/..

they only 'share'..a..common entrance/doorway\entrance/street/city.
and yesterday..it\was..just..an*agri-culture-center..now/why?\the agro?
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/05/20/israeli-murders-captured-on-video/
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2014/05/20/its-hard-to-hold-dual-loyalties/
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 8:25:42 AM
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When the vicious murderer who bashed a childs head in with a rifle butt for being Jewish, is not celebrated but despised by Palestinians, I will pay attention to these rancid maunderings. When the rancid person who murdered Jewish children by cutting their throats in their beds is reviled, his name stamped out by his own people, we will know peace is possible. Until then, all action by Israelis to defend themselves against people committed only to their deaths are entirely justified.

The Palestinian people could have peace and equality any time these last fifty years; all they had to do was declare peace. It is their own hatred and intransigence that prevents their equality, created out of their own behaviour. Alas, their was no profit for their leaders to allow that to happen, so they suffer. Hamas murders their own, flinging them off roofs, executing them in the streets; while Israel time and again has given land or prisoners seeking peace. All that happens is that the crazy killing fetish of the Palestinians is revealed anew.

Apartheid? The entire Arab world created the separation of the Palestinians, for their own purposes and their own honour. Only in the batshit insanity of the extreme left can ideas so foolishly wrongheaded as 'apartheid' be 'normal'.
Posted by ChrisPer, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 10:03:32 AM
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And I suggest only batshit insanity would try to airbrush the Nakba out of history.
No one denies the Holocaust. On the contrary, it is illegal in many parts of the world to do so.
But the Nakba? Try as you might, but that crime is not going away. It must be almost time to 'fess up, to make a better fist of it.
Honesty on both sides is needed, and paranoia doesn't help.
Posted by halduell, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 10:20:04 AM
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