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Plain packaging does more harm than good : Comments
By David Leyonhjelm, published 5/5/2014But while it failed to reduce smoking rates, plain packaging has led Australia into a legal minefield.
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Posted by one under god, Monday, 5 May 2014 12:47:48 PM
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What on earth has it to do with governments what people put into their mouths & suck. If they were really serious about stopping people damaging themselves this way, homosexuality would still be illegal, & a lot less people would have got aids.
We get Jayb with his bit of propaganda about the cost of health care for smokers. Come off the grass mate, smokers have paid in tobacco taxes for most of the healthcare bill, & most definitely a lot more than they consume. Hell if the stories of health problems are true, they even drop off the edge much younger, saving the government a fortune in pensions & age care as well. One of the worst things about modern society is the stupidity of governments buying bleeding hearts & control freaks votes, with restrictions on things like smoking. If we could get these busybodies doing something useful, rather than sticking their noses in where they are not wanted, the world would be a better place. Hell they could even get a real job perhaps. Incidentally, I don't smoke, except out of the ears when I'm confronted by these control freaks. Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 5 May 2014 1:06:36 PM
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RE THE BRIEF..why was i not given a copy?
well before this..[PLEASE NOTE THIS CASE WILL BE GOING TO APPEAL damm caps..point being i want transcripts this time or i must raise the issue with the magistrait anyhow cheers looking forward to meeting your good self i have informed raeme command and a few other people and by public notice/on the link but i doudt any will turn up [i will also be asking what oaths we each have maDE TO WHO [FOR DISCLOSURE REASONS PLEASE NOTE I HOLD TREATY OBLIGANTIONS..and other duties[prime of which..is god...[so the pHyc test beginning..need we go there yet again? it wilL only delay..and our meeting is time sensative. sincerly johan oh im told computer evidence is admitted what need i bring? n2s-n2m On 5/5/14, johan hendrick <johanhendrick@gmail.com> wrote: hi sean/thank you for your notice >please notice my notice..on the other link of my witness list [re my damages claim..shall begin with..Graham Cooke, [background] http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16263&page=2 ..i will need of course the brute..who assulted me[first arrest[unlawfulLY]..that should get us through the first day/the rest as notified over the/times [i wilL be laying..before the MAGGISTRAIGHT..THE INJURY/THE STATE HAS WROUGHT UPON MANY OF ITS CHILDREN..unjustly. anyhow thank*you for your notice my notice as noted/previous link/ [previous corrospon\dance] further info.[as to witness..i..shall need call[the duty sargenT..RE HIS/PROCESS PROCEDURE/AND FIlM OF HIM..THE COUNter..+of the cell he put Me into..that was fLowed by sputum..ON EVERY WALL/SEAT/FLOOR/film! also the driver of the.arrest/vehicle [THAT DID DANGEROUS DRIVING IN THE ENTRY..onto/JAIL I WILL NEED..THE JUDGE WHO WAS ON DUTY[AT FIRST HEARING TO EXPLAIN WHY HE REFUSED TO LISTEN..TO THE DAMAGES CLAIMS.] SORRY..im not yelLing the shift key is broken/it auto shifts > i will also need the two docters..[REDLANDS/CLINIC]..who attended my injuries[1/1/14miday]..promised/service..then/didnt send..letter and the other damages noted at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/user.asp?id=51186&show=history >On 5/5/14, Francis.SeanC@police.qld.gov.au >*<Francis.SeanC@police.qld.gov.au> wrote: >>..Master Van Den Hoorn >>Re:.Charge of possessing...dangerous drug*..on 31/12/2013. >>..This is just a courtesy reminder> SEE YOU TOMORROW. Posted by one under god, Monday, 5 May 2014 2:00:23 PM
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noticed/ GRAYMAN CROOK.. your first up/because your the easiest to refute
you see because of you lot c\scamming us with lies by govt declaring a war on drugs/smokers you jokers licensed haters to hate t wit/my teeth witness against you old mate see you think you got a slush fund of 3 billion new taxes/but i will be demanding off the judge that money/in her judgment order then via that 3 bilion latest slush fund you thought you got we will hIRE THE BEST LAYERS BARRISTERS MEDIA ADVISERS WE CAN GET THIS IS DAY ONE OFOUR FIGHT BACK we will prove how govts bought off shares to lay up this guilt tax from day one/the worlds bigest tax tax is fake/your up [god willing]..from day one we want back that what your collective deceptive lying begun when the redlands hospita dentist mutilayted many more teeth than mone part of the compo will be finding them naming shaming/the compensation grows daily next al sin taxes shall go then tax on wageswage isnt income/full stop this is judgment day//as i track back..from my final post i shall end upwith a lien over all the commonwealths assets/on behalf of the living/govt must not serve the dead./these terms explained on other threads. notice to servant=notice to master its all about the last man standing. r4v=ask raeme. Posted by one under god, Monday, 5 May 2014 2:17:45 PM
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Ag
I find it irritating when someone reads something into what I write and then tries to refute it while ignoring the actual point I was trying to make. I was not trying to imply that only the Coalition had applied restrictions on tobacco, but that 11 years and numerous restrictions (far more than you listed) in this time considerably reduced the smoking rates, and the rate of drop in smoking has not changed notably since. The implication is that this packaging policy has not made a measurable effect other than annoying the manufacturers. The restrictions brought in by Keating and Howard were done after serious research unlike the thought bubble packaging laws. JohnBennets, If the coalition's policies are 100% thought bubbles, please explain the complete collapse of the people smuggling after 5 years of Labor incompetence. Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 5 May 2014 2:23:19 PM
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Risible rubbish, and patent evidence of the conformation bias?
What's next David, a scholarly tome on how smoking actually improves the health, but particularly in very young children, who have yet to develop critical thinking skills? Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 5 May 2014 4:35:00 PM
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[and who put up them frost bite toes
and the suger rotted teeth].at least the latest batch of teeth look more real.[but while on the tooth thing..i rekon you need a phot of my mouth[ya see my teeth in 1998/didnt look like smokers teeth are supposed to look/so the dentist did some fine work[UPON MANY SMokers]..at the redslands hospital..and everyone has been covering it up
YES PLEASE PHOT THIS SMOKERS TEETH/its a crime scene
but for me graham your biggest point was compensation
my dear fellow conspirator..what is justice delayed?
we smokers arnt guilty of what we stand accused of
this smoker got busted new years eve
your my first witness for the defense of my offense
6 th of may..oR CONTACT THE POLICE CONTACT ON THE TOPIC
YOUR SERVED*
i will make it official tomorrow.
chEERS*
ignorance of the law..is no excuse
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