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Punishment to the max : Comments

By Anil Matoo, published 16/4/2014

Is the Australian penal system following the USA's Supermax prison model in the way it punishes certain prisoners?

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The writer is one of the people who arrange for so many "Rights" for the dangerous, vicious and horrible people. I do not want to torture anyone but when these people show that they are going to be dangerous to the rest of us this is what has to be done.
Perhaps the writer can institute a system where he guarantees with all his assets and pension rights (Public servants have these in truck loads)to the victims of any further violence from his little mates I will be satisfied. Silly statement he will make a living out of telling us what terrible people we are and how all the crims are just misunderstood and being treated badly.
We certainly need some more law taking away any privacy from criminals, making them liable for the rest of their lives for damage done and only three lots of legal aid per person. After that you are on your own sunshine and life imprisonment should mean life. Mind you when judges say we cannot do that perhaps changing their pensions into the same life term as they stipulate would clarify things for them.
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 9:29:40 AM
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When see persons charged, even re-incarcerated, for similar offences regard these events as systemic failure indicators.

Exists systemic failure to reduce common right of passage collegiate badge atmosphere, many hold towards their time in prison.

Sure reasonable concern exists towards potential psychological impact prolonged solitary confinement may have on individuals.

Such concerns, remain less important than drastically reducing collegiate atmospheres which clearly interfere with ability to re-educate prisoners.

Prisoners should have close to zero contact with other prisoners, be restricted to within single cells, each with shower and toilet, each with a secure outside patio area, each with a video and terminal connected to the internet.

Actual physical contact restrict as much as possible, so within approved re-education or work groups and approved visitors.

Prisoner contact with approved family and friends to use daily audio-video link, with a minimum of 15 minutes per day, extra time in 15 minute blocks able to be obtained with credits achieved as rewards for progress in their re-education.

IntraNet access used to order meals, purchase extras, and to complete required tasks like approved educational courses, to earn credits.

Email enabled, warnings attached to each email confirming these emails are not private, they originate through and remain property of corrective services, and may be tendered as evidence where required.

Liberty has boundaries.
Posted by polpak, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 9:48:11 AM
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A few points,
If we deprivatized, and returned prisons to public ownership, we'ed save considerable funds, and indeed, gain ministers, actually competent or capable, or doing their jobs?
Hopefully, occasionally?
If we decriminalized drug dependency, we'd empty out more than half the current prison population, and indeed, actually earn some new tax revenue, from some legitimized drugs, but particularly, those whose harmful side effects, are far less than alcohol and or tobacco!
If we treated the mentally ill as patients rather than criminals, we'd further empty, by more than half, remaining prison populations.
Lastly, if we simply executed the incorrigible recidivists, like incurable child molesters, rapist, etc, there almost be nobody left to incarcerate, and we'd guarantee, they'd never ever re-offend, or ever again harm the innocent!
Saving annual billions, which redirected, would more than likely pay for a free or means tested, universal tertiary education.
Personally, if it boiled down to a simple choice between a rapists life and that of someone like Daniel Morecombe, and it does or did! then I'd chose life for Daniel, or all the new entirely innocent potential victims!
We seem to accord criminals, more rights and consideration, than their endless trail of victims!?
Free or means tested tertiary education, would also serve, to avoid many of the reasons, a few will drift into a life of crime, or criminality, in the first place.
I can think of far better uses for limited public funds, than incarcerating incorrigible recidivists!
To be sure, there'd need to be incontrovertible proof, DNA, fingerprints, recorded HD retina scans etc, that placed them squarely at the central scene of the crime etc, before they faced a firing squad!
And we need to ensure as much as possible, we simply don't lock away those we can rescue, but rather rehabilitate, so they never ever again, become any further part of our prison systems!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 4:21:22 PM
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Hi there Anil MATOO...

I must say I'm impressed by the lofty level of your legal qualifications you've attained over the years, and I must admit you obviously know much about the theory of punishment through incarceration ? I was wondering therefore how much practical exposure did you manage to obtain through the police service ? Later, from working within a correctional setting more specifically, a maximum security institution ?

Actually Mr Matoo, I suspect all your knowledge has come from sources other than actual 'hands on' experience. Therefore, in my humble opinion and with the greatest respect to you sir, you would know precisely nothing whatsoever about criminals, nothing at all.

Moreover, I contend it's gentleman such as yourself, who come along every so often, and proceed to tell anyone who'll listen, all about the practice of managing and controlling dangerous criminals in custody. Further, anyone inane enough to follow your academic examples, could well end up either badly injured or worse, deceased ?

With respect Mr Matoo, people like you are a real menace in the correctional system. And as such, place the lives of those individuals who are charged with controlling these dangerous criminals, in severe peril !

Still, I urge you to stick to your theory based studies, and perhaps you may care to write an academic tome, sometime in the future ? Something like; 'Intractable Criminals in Custody', or something equally as evocative ? I'm sure it would make a stunning fictional account, even a TV series ?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 6:45:41 PM
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...Crime is BIG business...
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 17 April 2014 7:14:07 AM
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In the interests of balance and objectivity I believe Anil Matoo should direct research into the psychological welfare of victims of serious crime - the type of offenses for which most of the 'solitary confinement' prisoners find themselves behind bars.

It will uncover a far greater pool of suffering I suggest
Posted by divine_msn, Thursday, 17 April 2014 9:03:21 AM
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