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The language of discontent : Comments

By John Töns, published 8/4/2014

It is not enough for us to point at politicians - for we all have responsibility for the sort of society in which we live. By our silence we are complicit.

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< It is not too difficult to do something similar for indigenous Australians >

Really Jon?

Your five paragraphs following this statement suggest that it is far from easy.

If you look at every human culture on the planet and every one that has ever existed, and look at every species of animal and plant and understand basic ecological principles, you will see that inequality is fundamentally present everywhere.

I put it to you that the problems of inequality in our society are extremely difficult to deal with. And that perhaps we are stuck with them more or less as they are.

Perhaps in a society like ours, which is among the best and fairest in the world, equality is about as good as it is ever going to get.
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 8:14:45 AM
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YOU ARE OF COURSE FULLY CORRECT
but..please see..that some of us are deliberately silenced
and thus the lies grow ever longer..this is the cause of the seasons of our discontent

resentment/re lack..of ability to present/redaction of fraud
colluded systamised fraud.that and special attentions/sin tax

who can we talk to?
ABC-FACT CHECKING..WONT EXPOSE..these clear/BIAS
yet/MORE FOR ABC..[media-tarts]...TO IGNORE

FROM/olo/thread

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16191&page=0

WHERE THIS LINK..WAS REFERENCED..and
progressed/UPON..sanS CORRECTION/of THE clear-BIAS
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130301122256.htm

ITS A Complete fraud..but thats how govt..declare war on its kids
FOR REVENUE RAISING..its pathetic..even/aunty sells us out/and i cant reply even..for 20 hours/post limits..[freespeak?]

but heck..lets lay it at abc feet
see if abc even notes it/they sure helped set the lies in place

abc is a DISGRACE/..hence/..this language..[of discontent]

setting it up..was/a study..quoted
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130301122256.htm

<<..New study shows cannabis effects on driving skills>>

WRONG/MISLEADING....who paid?
its..a DELIBERATE LIE/read on..THINK WHY?

<<..In this paper, 30 male chronic..*[note/word-use]..daily cannabis smokers...resided.[read/imprisoned]..on a secure research unit..for up to 33 days,..with daily blood collection.>>

ie locked up..in jail..or prison..or
phyc unit or qunatonimo bay..for all we know..no/dope/..given blood

please/mote
no mention..of..*measuring..'driving'..skills
[thats not what..this fraud exposes..its what..it was turned into

so..what/was really tested

<<..These results demonstrate,..[for the first time]>>

lol first time my butt..pure..[RUBBISH]
but lets calm down..and read on..

IMPORTANT

<<..that cannabinoids..*can be detected*..in blood of..*chronic daily cannabis smokers..*KEY..*during a month..of *sustained..*abstinence.>>

ie locked-up/IN JAIL/INSTITUTION
IE non driving..not smoking

yet..here is summery

<<..Cannabis is second..only to alcohol..for
*causing impaired driving..and motor vehicle accidents...>>

of the tested causes..[in prison/not driving]
[eg..prescribed meds/noR thesis..none..were tested.jusT BLOOD TESTS/THATS IT]

further if its.in our blood for 30 days..and no other cause/was tested/report is biased..but more is this..IT misleads that which actually was tested..[they tested..cannAbinoids..REMAINING..IN BLOOD..after abstinence..ie.not driving skills/impairment\TESTING

further..the research bias source.isn't noted
ie 99%..of the tests showed booze..1%..cannabis
[but only booze and cannabis was tested for..[

so yES IT CAME IN SECOND]..BY Design
in a two test biased..disgrace

further fraud/expose..CONTINUES
SO/TOO OUR R-AGE OF DISCONTENTMENT
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 9:07:01 AM
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again/note what WAS tested..wasnt driving skill
wasn't coming in second..but measured cannabis\trace/ammounts..in blood/without smoking

[please note vegetable intake not mentioned..5 vegetables HAVE CANNABINOIDS[POTATO/TOMATO/LETTUCE]..SO IF THEY ATE THEM..THATS WHAT WAS BEING MEASURED.and dont think they noted that

but worse..they found a way..to include kids
[note/no age MENTIONED..

<<..In 2009,..12.8% of young adults..>>
BUT NO DOUDT 1ST YEAR.DRIVERS[THESE THINGS USUALY DONE..IN SCHOOLS.

]SELF.<<../reported driving under the influence..of illicit drugs>>

Failing to name any/but the new drugs of choice are not cannabis
yet here we are/how pathetically one eyed

<<.and in..the 2007 National Roadside Survey...*more drivers tested positive for drugs..than for alcohol.>>

again drugs
not cannabis

yet somehow/the flip is made..

<<. These cannabis smokers had a 10-fold increase in car crash injury..>>

who were we compared to..boozers>/the clear and present danger/..no

<<.compared with infrequent or nonusers>>

then note this..<<..after adjustment>>..
yeah/adjustment for what..booze?

<<..after adjustment for blood alcohol concentration.>>

its pathetic/the lies needed

so what was really
tested?

<<..New research appearing online today in Clinical Chemistry, the journal of AACC, shows that cannabis can be detected in the blood of daily smokers for a month after last intake.>>>

were salad eaters excluded?

<<..The scientific data in this paper by Bergamaschi et al. can provide real help in the public safety need for a drugged driving policy that reduces the number of drugged driving accidents on the road.>>

by avoiding testing/or mentioning testing 'impared driving skills'

again with the spin/unrelated..to/the actual info tested

<<>Cannabis is second only to alcohol..>>

because prescribed drug driving is ok/or\.of no concern
GOVT EVEN pays for..'them'..then even protects/..them..[not us]

ts pathetic/..*..\..its..abc..fatcat/fact checking

FACT-check..yea..i know..ITS A JOKE

FROM/olo/thread

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16191&page=0

WHERE THIS LINK..WAS REFERENCED..and
progressed/UPON..sanS CORRECTION/of THE clear-BIAS
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130301122256.htm

ITS A Complete fraud..but thats how govt..declare war on its kids
FOR REVENUE RAISING..its pathetic..
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 9:09:08 AM
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If one is to expect equality, then why only between humans?

<<I am diminished when I stand by and hear people marginalise individuals on the basis of their race, colour, religion, gender or physical ability.>>

But you are not diminished when others are marginalised on the basis of their species, right?

<<In every instance we are engaged in anti-human behaviours and as we are all human – we are not just hurting others we are hurting ourselves.>>

No Sir, we are not humans, we only happened to acquire a human body for a while, for as long as it lasts. Yes, when we hurt others we hurt ourselves, even when those others do not happen to wear a human body as we currently do.

We ARE equal, already - we only wear different costumes. Imagine how boring it would be if we all wore the same costume: that would include being born at the same place, the same time, to the same parents and always occupying the same position in space...
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 9:15:36 AM
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The concept of 'equality' shouldn't be used as the bar of all judgement and morality. In fact, it it should be rarely used. Two reasons why: the first is that it brings out the worst traits in human beings - envy, resentment, frustration, entitlement complex, anger, and hate. The second is that it fails to see that inequality is the natural condition. Equality is an ideal, that is all; it doesn't actually exist anywhere except in the head of those who preach it. Equality of opportunity may exist, but equality of outcome doesn't, nor should it ever exist. Why? Because human beings have different talents, skills, and motivations, and they also differ in the degree that they will cultivate these traits. No amount of social engineering will correct the human impulse for achievement, rank, and distinction.
Posted by Aristocrat, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 9:44:46 AM
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Well, we are unequal from the day we are born!
There are physical, intellectual and emotional differences.
However, that can never be used as an excuse for the strong to exploit the weak, but rather, reason to protect, the way we are supposed to, with children, the fail and old, or disabled.
Nor should difference be used by the emotionally crippled uncaring, to confer a privileged status on people who don't deserve it; given brighter, stronger persons are denied those privileges, and knowingly locked away in poverty traps by the policy paradigms of the ruling elite!
When they could serve humanity so much better, if given a measure of equality or a fighting chance.
Education ought to be the starting point, and then let merit or natural attrition decide a much fairer contest!
Why?
Because there is a natural order and a natural contest. And that is how it should be?
All human progress has been accompanied by the contest of ideas, and the strong assisting/providing for the weak!
The graves of the earliest humans, show that at some point in our development, we became compassionate caring humans, and stepped up above other animals on the evolutionary scale.
Not everyone is cut out to be team leaders, but almost everyone is cut out to become members of teams and engage in teamwork.
The current discontent has it's origins in individualism, and or taking undeserved credit and reward for the work of many; manifesting as unearned obscene returns for a few!
And a reason to inculcate discontent, but particularly, in the brighter and more competent!
What we need is team/corporate Australia, and a return to genuine teamwork and cooperation!
The economic miracle, that turned a war-torn and impoverished Japan, into the second most powerful economy, was teamwork, pure and simple.
They didn't compete with each other for the spoils of defeat, but rather, with the rest of the world, for pragmatic nation building opportunities and economic recovery!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 12:11:20 PM
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