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Marijuana's time has come : Comments
By David Leyonhjelm, published 7/4/2014The ancient Egyptians used medical cannabis extensively four thousand years ago, and the diuretic, antiemetic, antiepileptic, anti-inflammatory, analgesic and antipyretic effects of cannabis were well known in medieval medicine.
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IMHO, The sale of Marijuana should remain illegal as the price is not too bad and besides making it legal will give the anti-smoking and drinking nazis even more oxygen to want to re-ban it and the government, wanting to look after our our health, taking control of this racquet wanting to index its excise every so often to make an even higher profit(TAX) and sending the price sky rocketting!!
Posted by Kilmouski, Monday, 7 April 2014 8:35:31 AM
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Let's legalise all drugs with the proviso that it will be actually illegal to claim any money for any harm suffered by the taker of the drug. Of course I would expect insurance not to cover you whilst drug affected and of course no legal defence allowed that you were drug affected.
Same rules for alcohol of course. The early death of drug takers would be a big tick for the rest of us. Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 7 April 2014 9:10:29 AM
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I have no axe to grind on the marijuana issue (as in, tried it a couple of times, not impressed), but I do find this particular argument-from-history a little naive.
"In the early 20th century, before it was banned, numerous tonics and tinctures containing cannabis extract were available." In the nineteenth century, "medicinal" use of opium, morphine, laudanum etc. was also widespread. I would suggest that relying upon its historical use as one pillar of the justification for legalization of marijuana is entirely self-defeating. Posted by Pericles, Monday, 7 April 2014 10:13:10 AM
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The war on drugs is essentially a war on drug users, as the number of cannabis users in US gaols illustrate. It is high time to regard drugs as primarily a health issue rather than in terms of law and order. We need drug law reform.
Posted by Asclepius, Monday, 7 April 2014 10:31:07 AM
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Anything goes so long as you don't try to tell us that drugs are good.
Drugs are drugs are drugs and they are all bad, but I don't want to keep paying: 1) for police to hunt those bad people. 2) for courts to judge those bad people. 3) for prisons to lock, guard and feed those bad people. I rather have those bad people feed their habit cheaply than having to obtain it by breaking into homes and businesses of good people. I rather have the police force be available to protect real, ordinary good people rather than spend their time serving the government's prestigious interests in operations to catch drug users and dealers. This applies to all drugs - I totally agree with JBowyer. Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 7 April 2014 10:33:37 AM
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I believe that most recreational drugs ought to be decriminalized, with addicts treated as medical patients, with medical problems, rather than criminals, who cost us around or over $70,000.00 per, each, just to incarcerate!
If we believed in equality before the law, as a real outcome, then we would lock up most alcoholics/tobacco users as well!? Just this amount of change would empty out two thirds of our prisons! And treating mental health with medical intervention/treatment, more than half of those who would then remain? However, I wouldn't include hydroponic hemp, which has dangerously high drug levels! That almost always result in this or that psychosis!? And given we legalize far less potent Marijuana, for personal use only, and limited to half a dozen pot plants? We should include industrial hemp, for similar completely pragmatic reasons! Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 7 April 2014 11:30:19 AM
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"Few still believe the old myth that smoking marijuana leads to a spiral of drug dependence and dissipation. Some claim prolonged use can adversely affect the mental health of certain individuals, and it certainly has the potential to make driving dangerous, but compared to alcohol it is a drug of peace and tranquillity."
One wonders whether the good senator-elect spent time living in a hippy commune, and consequently whether that had a lasting effect on his thinking. There is no shortage of drug dependents who started by smoking marijuana, a harmless drug as the author erroneously assumes. This does not inspire confidence in his acting responsibly in his coming six-year service in the Senate. Posted by Raycom, Monday, 7 April 2014 11:35:05 AM
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Legalizing most drugs, which should be available legally and over the pharmacy counter for registered users, would destroy the illegal industry, almost overnight!
These very same drug barons, which include the Taliban, [who are now financed almost exclusively by the illicit drug trade,] argue most convincingly, for the status quo, given just how much financial skin they have in the current illegal trade. Ditto many law enforcement agencies! Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 7 April 2014 11:41:40 AM
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I do hope the Senators actually try and do something about this. They should also use these almost certainly narrow opinions here. Perhaps we have to go for a referendum on this. As with many others here I will be voting drop all restrictions or perhaps the same as Alcohol & tobacco?
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 7 April 2014 11:47:56 AM
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Do the maths.
How much does it cost to keep pot illegal? Factor in the cost of incarceration and the cost to young futures with a criminal record. Then, how much could it earn as a taxable item? Of course regulate it. Think alcohol and tobacco. And try to remember two points: 1) With it illegal, there is no quality control and 2) Recreational drugs are with us whether we use them ourselves or not. Why send those buying them into the arms of criminals? Posted by halduell, Monday, 7 April 2014 1:41:09 PM
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Well anyone using it after legalisation should have to surrender their
drivers and or pilots licence. Its effect can last for days so I believe watching RBT police on TV. It would be too much to expect that someone who smoked it on Saturday would not drive to work on Monday to Wednesday. Perhaps the senate should now do random drug tests before senate votes. Posted by Bazz, Monday, 7 April 2014 3:25:30 PM
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Hi haldwell, I agree completely with your point. The cost of keeping cannabis as an illegal drug is enormous: the income to the state from regulating its production and sale is, likewise, very large.
Hi Bazz, I think your figures are a little off - I'd appreciate it if you could point this discussion to your source. I know that some by-products of cannabis, being fat-soluble, remain in the body and can be detected at very low levels some day or even a week after use. I don't think that applies to the active ingredients: then, I could be wrong - please give us something to work with. My main quibble with cannabis is the same thing as smoking tobacco: that is the act of smoking. All the arguments that have been used against the inhalation of the by-products of tobacco in a high-temperature smoke apply equally to the inhalation of the by-products of cannabis. Eating cannabis cooked into food or drinking pureed cannabis straight or or mixed with fruit juice seems preferable to getting it into our bodies at the expense of our lungs. I don't agree with much of what Senator-elect David says, but this is one time when I can say thank you for re-starting a debate we had to have. Posted by Brian of Buderim, Monday, 7 April 2014 4:24:03 PM
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AUTHOR/QUOTE>><,..It is especially bizarre that its medical properties cannot be utilized.>>
ACTUALLY THATS THE BIGGEST ISSUE there are over 5000 compounds in cannabis and the powers that be have been trying to patent many.. besides they need protect/their business model[like the billion dollar subsidy..we give to stroke medication[only half as affective as one puff on a joint. [heck you just need note HOW..they managed to make a nicotine chewing gum cash cow[as if nothing compared to holding license over the Cannabinols..in cannabis marijuana is the spin name/by which govt put a tAX ON HEMP SO DUPONT/BROTHERS CAN SELL THEIR HEMP Replacement..[nyloN] over night they put the tax[based on the machine gun tax]..on hemp and instantly millions oF HEMP FARMERS WENT BROKE[lost their farms/DEPRESSION ETC] ALl set up by a cousin..J EDGAR HOOVER/WHO VILIFIED IT..in a relatives news papers[in many cases the law was passed in the middle of the nights[]without even a quorum regardless this law criminalizes mainly kids[the last years i got numbers for are 1999[QLD]..33697 CRIMINALIZED[CONVICTED]..RAIsING 50 MILLION In revenue costing [UNKNOWN]//IN LEGAL AID [SHEPHERDING GUILTY,,pleas [BUT ON AVERAGE OF 100 PER DAY.. [20 oUt OF 21 PLEAD GUILTY FIRST APPEARANCE/after being criminalized] FOR WHAT? FEAR REVENUE..SIN tax..no just revenue..for the true drug lords,,[the security agencies],,,for to wage war globally..paid for by kids in ghettos/lives made hell[police love the special search seizure powers/great way to frighten any kid into 'helping'..us out to/be continued Posted by one under god, Monday, 7 April 2014 4:30:48 PM
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AT MINIMUM..YOU USUALLY SPEND WEEKEND.IN JAIL/HAD HOME SEARCHED..AND LOST A FEW DAYS PAY..JUST TO PLEAD GUILTY ..TO POSSESSING..A FIXTURE AS IF A FUNGIBLE..[CONSUMABLE]
SO THE AVERAGE LEGAL AID cash take is 3o,000 grand a day[for helping criminalize many kids each day..to raise pennies its all based on treaties[that ARNT BINDING UPON NON SIGNERS] ITS BASED ON BEING ON A SCHEDULE[ALL THE Others on the scedual are white powder drugs/cannabis IS A PLANT..[IT NEED SPECIAL TWO DAY TRAINING TO judge a plant A SCHEDULE DRUG/JUST THE SIGNED PROOF OF THIS SCAMMED CONVICTS IGNORANT S SEE WHILE A PLANT IS IN THE GROUND/UNDER TRADITIONAL/REAL eastate-lAW..ITS A FIXTURE[OF OR AFFIXT]..TO THE LAND/thus owned bY THE LAND BUT ALONG COMES A COPPER TAKES POSSESSION.BUT HE CANT POSSES/THUS TAKES IT INTO CUSTODY..IE the kid couldn't lawfully posses a plant/and the Kid never possessed/nor the cop/yet there is the druggie now pleading GUILTY TO 'Possession' the cop taking it p[roves he never had lawful possession anyhow more shall be revealed at the niMBIN MARDIGRASS AND THE SEED FOR PEACE TRIAL..ON 6 MAY These properties have been known/IGNORED..FOR TOO LONG Posted by one under god, Monday, 7 April 2014 4:31:20 PM
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Perhaps we could crack on with long overdue rapid rail options, so that those still under the influence weren't forced to drive or fly anywhere?
And, I think all commercial pilots are routinely tested for residual recreation and other drugs, before they climb into an aircraft? Which if found, would cost them their careers!? At least that appears to be the reported current practice here? I think we need to seriously suspect the opinions of those, who argue for the current status quo, which includes too many unnecessary deaths, caused by substandard quality control, and marketeers, who really don't give a rats for any lethal consequences! As other have commented, recreational drugs is a horse already bolted, and or, that slamming shut the stable door now, would be both very futile and extremely expensive. Think, the money burned in this futile effort along with literal billions in new taxes, would likely pay for a very rapid rail roll-out and a return of affordable housing, and then, any number of far more pragmatic, nation building projects!? Rhrosty. Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 7 April 2014 4:38:22 PM
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I know it is a side-issue here but ...
Could someone please tell 'under one god' that use of capitals the way he/she uses them is seen as shouting? I routinely don't read his or her posts for that very reason! Posted by Brian of Buderim, Monday, 7 April 2014 4:44:02 PM
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I was about to ask that question whether it could cause lung cancer.
The TV program RBT several times showed someone being tested in the booze bus and testing positive to marijuana and complaining that it had been four or five days since they smoked it. The copper testing them confirmed that they get positives for that sort of time. So really it is incompatible with holding a drivers licence. Anyone convicted of driving under drugs should have their licence cancelled permanently. When I see semi trailers charging through red lights on Pennant Hills Road I often wonder what they have been smoking. That program has shown a few truck drivers being caught on drugs. Posted by Bazz, Monday, 7 April 2014 4:52:43 PM
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bazz/buzz/quoTE..<<..booze bus..and testing positive..to marijuana and complaining..that it..had been four..or five days since they smoked it.>>
YES CANABINOLS..ARE FAT Soluble[..Thus you can never have withdrawal symptoms ps..thE OTHER THING RE CANABINOLS IS 5..Vegetables contain them [ie having a mixed..salad sHOWS UP..ON THE TEST] <<..The copper testing../them confirmed/that..they get positives[please/note..false-positives]..for that/sort of time.>. juST LIKE..Their instructed/to its a drug bust..by formulation trusting the victim..is ignorant.. BUT..[NO Victim/NO CRIME] POLICE ARE EMPOWERED..only..TO SERVE AND PROTECT..[not entrap and criminalize]..inconvenience/ABUSE/INSULT..OR IMPLICATE but while their..busting kids..they feel big [much bigger..THAN WHEN A..ELITES-LAWYER Rips them..to shreds in court].. so yes its easy..too easy thus loved..by the weak..WHO LOVE FEELING...ALL POWERFUL it works..too well <<>.So really it/is incompatible..with holding a drivers license.>> I NEVER LOST POINTS...AND NEVER HAD AN ACCIDENT/I DROVE Everything from tanks trucks..tO MOTORCYCLES..but INSTRUCTED DRIVING..IN THE ARMY..because i ate..a veggie mixed salad,...in a druggie..F/U. if lawyers..were only on/our SIDE..THE LAW.WOULD BE LONG GONE[BUT SO MANY GETTING RICH..OFF THIS WAR ON..YOUTH/DRUG users[IMAGINE THEIR BAD KARMA] stuff you..how/about..ditto..for..drunks and fatties..<<..Anyone convicted of driving..under drugs should/have their license...canceled permanently.>>. ..immediately? [listen..are you/a paid..lobby/or a copper..LOVING COPING THE FEE? NAW..THAT HAPPENS..WHen you cant.pay the fine <<..When I see semi trailers..charging through .red lights on Pennant Hills/Road I often wonder..what they have been smoking.>> LISTEN..THEY SMOKE CRACK OR TAKE SPEED/pep/pills powders THEY Only use cannabis..to calm DOWN AND SLEEP..[its/an anti..drug] BUT NEVER WHILE DRIVING..[SEE THEY MADE/THE FIX..TO NEUTRALIZE THE TEST/..lol..sold..[BY THE SAME GROUP THAT..,MADE THE TESTS] you can neutralize..all the test's..if your in the know..AND YOU DONT MIND..Paying the 50 bucks it costs/to stuff up..the tests itS LIKE..VIRUS/MAKERS MAKE virus..to sell you the cure its a scam...but you want us done/DUSTED..DEAD BURRIED..ditto FOR PRESCRIBED DRUGS?..OR JUST CANNABIS? http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/04/04/doubting-health-benefits-cannabis/ YOU MAKING ME SICK ITS THE SMOKING THREAD..ALL Over again http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6196&page=0 http://www.newsforage.com/2014/04/tobacco-plant-has-key-to-fighting.html TAX ME..FINE ME..BAN Me from driving.. BUT NOT you/LORD..BUT NOT/YOU. WHY ALL THE LIARS? TELLING MORE LIES/AGAIN..hate?fear?spite? I USE CANNABIS..TO CONTROL MY ANGER Please DONT MAKE ME ANGRY..i might need..a stronger druG http://www.infowars.com/army-admits-fort-hood-shooter-was-on-psychiatric-drugs/ http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/04/03/manufacturing-madness-pseudoscience-modern-psychiatry/ http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/04/04/a-century-of-deceit-iraq-the-world-wars-holocaust-and-zionist-militarism/ Posted by one under god, Monday, 7 April 2014 6:15:24 PM
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Hi Bazz,
I look forward to someone somewhere doing some research to determine at what level cannabinoids impair driving ability. Once that happens, I think we will find that the 'drug' tests we are using are very sensitive to a level of active ingredients well below the impairment level. Do you think that might be a possibility - that there is no connection between the impairment of reflexes level and the sensitivity of the test? Posted by Brian of Buderim, Monday, 7 April 2014 9:06:11 PM
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Oh Brian, I would not have a clue.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 7 April 2014 9:43:43 PM
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DEAR BRIAN..OF BUD..ginger/mate..i been an activist for 20 years
funny'/enough my computers..have a habit of dying[on average 1 per year i self-taught..myself tO write so for..a long time..never used capital letters[as somehow/in my ignorance..a button near..the caps often deleted text.but then one day..the board begun shifting keys..from upper-case to lower case..and i end up..with a mess i then try..to sort/the mess out...but hyper sensitive cursOR..Has its own problems often for example..i will move/the cursor to edit begin typing and see/after..the cursor settled..it highlighted and deleted..great chunks of text further the curer....when moved often delays moving for 5 or 6 seconds[thus i loose the flow..or further the page freezes in short THIS IS THE LAST..COMPUTER IM EVER BUYING IF BLOGGING FOR THE LAST HALF..OF MY ACTIVIST CAREER..DONT DO THE JOB STUFF IT[HERE I AM YET AGAIN REPLYING SOME FOOL, UNABLE TO REFUTE WHAT IM SAYING..SO COMPLAINING about the formatting..TO IGNORE WHAT IS SAID..read it or skip it.. im just letting them know..in court 6 may ..im going TO SPELL IT out..in person.. and then blogging..is over im so over caring..about anything..even about how a non/reader..of my words wastes..a post on nuthing..fine..skip the post..sadly i read most/but then im not afraid of facts. EITHER REVEALING THEM OR REVEALING THEM..WHO WOULD CONCEAL THEM WE SHALL KNOW THEM...BY THEIR FRUITS..DONT I KNOW YOU ..BLUEY? I CAN SMELL THE BOOZE..ON YOUR BREATH SO WE SHALL JUST SEARCH YOUR CAR.. [OH YOU DONT SEARCH..DRUNKS CARS/..YEAH/RIGHT].. AAnyhow take a breath mint..refute what i say/not how a computer corrupted/by security agency virus,..allows me to put it [this jumped..to where is now is i leave it..as unsaid.. ..yeah...''SO WHY SEARCH MINE;;? because a drunk..would get angry? BRAVE BOYS..PICK ON THE DOPERS..[ANYONE WHO HAS TRIED IT KNOWS IT DONT DO NUTHIN..BUT EXPAND YOUR ARTERIES..AND MAKE YA EYES RED/AND SLEEPY..NOT BETTER BOOZE..THAT MAKES ANGER. i hate the caps/more than anyone but already too much anger..so i ignore it. till im reminded of it/and yet again need to defend..not to topic/but formatting...FOR PEOPLE/NOT READING IT ANYHOW LOL Posted by one under god, Monday, 7 April 2014 10:10:08 PM
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Brian of Buderim, "I look forward to someone somewhere doing some research to determine at what level cannabinoids impair driving ability"
This report might be interesting, http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/130301122256.htm Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 7 April 2014 10:57:02 PM
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Hi on the beach, thanks for the abstract. Has this been replicated somewhere else or is this the only study? Was this peer-reviewed? Are you suggesting total abstinence from cannabis if driving for the next month or are you proposing a measurable level, like prescribed blood alcohol, above which we are not permitted to go?
Posted by Brian of Buderim, Monday, 7 April 2014 11:03:49 PM
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Well that link from OTB was interesting. The effect may follow a half
life curve so if detectable for a month then 2 weeks is probably a dangerous period. As no one would leave the car in the garage for two weeks and they would indulge at least once a week their drivers licence should be cancelled. I don't see room to do anything else. We are talking about the life of others, so that is it. Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 8:13:32 AM
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Research equals delay! Why wait? Why not just trial it and quick. All the usual suspects would squeal and bring up everything against it but I am confident it would improve our country. Less money going to criminals and more sickness for addicts but how much more? You can only die once.
Consider the havoc created by Prohibition of alcohol in the US, really that was where the drugs really took off. Let's support the new Senator and suggest he puts up a bill. Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 8:24:44 AM
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BUZZ/LIGHT-YEAR/QUOTE..<<>.We..are talking about..the life/of others, so..that..is it.>>
what..is he taking about? on the beach/LINK..linking driving..to 2DE HIGHEST CAUSE..OF DANGER OVER DRINK DRIVING..[WITH BLOOD TEST/DONE ON..jailed/SMOKERS WHILE THEY WERE..LOCKED UP [JUST BLOOD TEST/NO DRIVING TESTS..AT ALL WERE CONDUCTED..repeat..[JUST BLOOD TESTING] POINT..of your link..IS REFUTED HERE http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16196&page=0 so..mr buzz-ight..year will seek banning..non drivers? and taking blood-tests..just to get a distraction..from/the..fact/that drunks driving are the biggest cause of death? by far/..[please note *drug driving..is number two/ but cannbis isnt one of the 'drugs'..[its there/in trace elements] ie..if they were testing for milk..or caffeine/ then coffee..would be number one 'cause..of death/driving [but we got fools..like bitchy that post..the fraud/links and nutters like buzz..lightyear..saying absurdities..of BIAS HATE.SPITE".. LIKE...<<..As no one would leave the car..in the garage for two weeks and..they would..indulge at least once a week..their drivers licence should/be canceled.>> BUT WAIT/muggins/THE DRUG THUG..CONTINUES <<..I don't see room..to do anything else.>>.. TRY TELLING..THE TRUTH..coppers booze kills more than any/..and all/other drugs combined booze is a drug too/thus drugs..is one and two/ booze is..the biggest cause.. so/which..real drug..is number two=prescribed meds you see..the organized bias..we are fighting? HOW WELL MEANING..miss-informed/useful/IDIOTS..PARROT BACK THE HEADLINE..NOT EVEN TESTED..IN THE 'STUDY'/THESIS..body. DEAF BLIND DUMB //UNTHINKING biased/MINDLESSNESS.. ONE DAY../WE MUST SUE THOSE...SO ADEPT..AT SPINNING LIES.hating despising..those?like-me..so/much..you would risk..yET AGAIN/being caught lying.. yet again/LYING AGAIN AGAIN..2 DE POST SCROLL DOWN http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=16196&page=0 from on/the-munchies/link <<..In this paper,..30 male chronic..*[note/word-use]..daily cannabis smokers...resided.[read/imprisoned]..on a secure*research unit..for up to 33 days,..with daily blood collection.>> ie locked up..in jail..or prison..or phyc unit or qunatonimo bay..for all we know..no/dope/..yet/given blood?..to make us look criminal/very effectively.[it fooled bitchy and buzzsore. please/note...no mention..of..*measuring..'driving'..skills [thats not what..this fraud exposes]...its what..it was turned into so..what/was really tested <<..These results..demonstrate,..[for..[lol]..the first time]>> please/note/IMPORTANT <<..that cannabinoids..*can be detected*..in blood <<of..*chronic daily cannabis smokers..>>..*KEY*..<<..*during a month..of *sustained..*abstinence.>> get it/yet?.. ie locked-up/IN JAIL/INSTITUTION IE noT driving..not smoking..not testing..THE heading thesis...[nor is it sourced.] yet..here is..oft-repeated but..not tested/..IN summery <<..Cannabis is second..only to alcohol..for *causing impaired driving..and motor vehicle accidents...>> of the tested BLOOD..[in prison]..not driving none..were tested/for driving skill... jusT BLOOD TESTS/and..THATS IT..JUST BIGOTED/BLIND/BIASED HATE]..BAH..DRUNKS..CANT READ/cant SYMPATHIZE..JUST FEAR/HATE...SPITE Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 4:34:34 PM
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its rather pathetic ya dont do ya research
you would/could note who is saying what http://www.google.com.au/search?q=canavis+smokers+safer+drivers my post just disappeared so im rewriting it..yet again but this im doing for those you abuse/not you bigoted few [why im anGRY..IS THIS LAW SCREWED UP MY LIFE/nit the drug/the law again/note what WAS tested..wasnt driving skill wasn't coming in second..but measured cannabis\trace/ammounts..in blood/without smoking [please note vegetable intake not mentioned..5 vegetables HAVE CANNABINOIDS..[POTATO/TOMATO/LETTUCE]..SO IF THEY ATE THEM..THATS WHAT WAS BEING MEASURED.and don't think they noted that but worse..they found a way..to include kids [note/no age MENTIONED.. <<..In 2009,..12.8% of young adults..>> BUT NO DOUBT 1ST YEAR.DRIVERS[THESE THINGS USUALY DONE..IN SCHOOLS. ]SELF.<<../reported driving under the influence..of illicit drugs>> Failing to name any/but the new drugs of choice are not cannabis yet here we are/how pathetically one eyed <<.and in..the 2007 National Roadside Survey...*more drivers tested positive for drugs..than for alcohol.>> again drugs not cannabis yet somehow/the flip is made.. <<. These cannabis smokers>>. not boozers? had ..a 10-fold increase in car crash injury..>>than who?..sober drivers?..drunk drivers..10 fold stronger dope? that 10 fold thing comes up heaps/classic spin who were we compared to..boozers>/ the clear and present danger/boosers....no <<.compared with infrequent..or nonusers>> then note this..<<..after adjustment*>>.. yeah/adjustment[read 10 fold] that reminds ,me..of the drinking deaths [qld]/1999 5000 deaths were recorded//but after factoring in the advantages [benefit]..of drinking it fails to 2000 so 3000 booze deaths became 2000 not by 10fold manipulation..fOR DOPERS /BUT NOT for what..booze? <<..after adjustment*..for blood alcohol concentration.>> its pathetic/..the lies needed DESPITE COMPUTER PROBLEMS..I PERSIST/ 2B CTD Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 9:03:25 PM
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ITS THAT SO MANY HATE US BECAUSE OF JEDGAR HOOVERS LIES FOR DUPONT
AGAIN..ITS PATHETIC..BUT JUST PASTE THE WORDS..AND CALM DOWN[OR WE WILL LOCK YOU UP AND PUT You under section ..or worser drugs bah so what was really tested? <<..New research appearing online today in Clinical Chemistry, the journal of AACC, shows that cannabis can be detected in the blood of daily smokers for a month after last intake.>>> were salad eaters excluded? <<..The scientific data in this paper by Bergamaschi et al. can provide real help in the public safety need for a drugged driving policy that reduces the number of drugged driving accidents on the road.>> by avoiding testing/or mentioning testing 'impared driving skills' again with the spin/unrelated..to/the actual info tested <<>Cannabis is second only to alcohol..>> because prescribed drug driving is ok/or\.of no concern GOVT EVEN pays for..'them'..then even protects/..them..[not us] ts pathetic/..*..\..its..abc..fatcat/fact checking FACT-check..yea..i know..ITS A JOKE FROM/olo/thread the/fraud/LINK..WAS REFERENCED..and progressed/UPON..sanS CORRECTION/of THE clear-BIAS ITS A Complete fraud..but thats how govt.. declares war on its kids..FOR REVENUE RAISING.. 65 million..in fines..35,000 criminalized/by legaL AID/FRAUD..its pathetic..HANG YA HEADS IN SHAME [WHERE STATE LAWS ARE DIVERGENT.. they fall subject to federal law [there is no federal law/so even at the highest levels..its unlawful] fines are in penalty-units or cash[but only coin is awfull tender/but yet we cant pay in coin/so they put a lien on my house/my 3,000 dollar fine lets govt steal my 300,000 house/ stuff govt colluding with courts/media and lawyers and researchers selling lies.. how much my damages/a lost life. by what right govt to declare war on its own or worse declare a plant a drug..and declare war on a plant that has healed us broken..by the abuser/loving the revenue.asset theft.. how dare you GO MINESTER..I GOT PLENTY MORE FACTS. THAN IM ABLE TO PRESENT/HERE NOW.. the facts. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/Jack_Herer_-_The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes.pdf Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 9:09:51 PM
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Brian of Buderim & Bazz,
That research surprised me. I had been thinking that seniors might be allowed to consume MJ because it offered a cheap alternative to drugs and could be grown at home (limit 6 plants and 30 grams for private use). As well, there was the prospect of legal use cutting out a money supply to criminal gangs, with the spin-off that the strong hydroponic stuff (that gets smuggled in boogie boards) would be reduced. I'd add though that I have no personal experience and was only going by published reports. However as Bazz commented, a drug that persists for so long in the system presents a whole new range of serious risks. Wise to wait for more research. Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 10:37:34 PM
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Legalisation won't stop the criminals, they will just switch to something else.
There is no end of alternatives and stupid people who will try them. Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 11:00:45 PM
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MORE/STUDY..ISNT..THE ANSWER
there/are..NO/GOOD GUYS http://www.bobtuskin.com/2014/04/07/narcotics-boom-wests-legacy-for-afghanistan-activist/ judge/the..fruits http://12160.info/main/mobilepage/desktopMode?target=%2Fxn%2Fdetail%2F2649739%3ATopic%3A1193360 that/from..the drugs/govt..perscribed you become/that...you hate any/study..will only..be paid for/by..those getting/SEEKING/advantage/LICENSE..thus[RESULT/of a built-in bias]..or..those on/SOME other agenda's..[ie/eg]..private prisons/love dopers/they are easy pickings for the real criminals.in jail.. [the hatred of all..you normal reasonable people..seems to go out the door;..when/it..comes to pot...[ASK..BY/WHAT..PSY-op.what makes you hate...me so? I..RECALL...hOW/THEY TESTED..SMOKING DOPE..ON MONkIES THEY TAPED..GAS-MASKS..OVER 6 APES/THEN...PROCEEDED TO SEND THE SMOKE/FROM...33 JOINTS/DIRECTLY INTO THE MASKS..so the apes were oxygen deprived..[suffered/suffocation/.. 4 died..but heck..these 'scientists'..didnt give/a stuff/they published;.their 'findings'..and i.have had;;.their results parroted at me;.by ignorant people..ever since see..that...we got massive/drug/problems [booze;.kills 300 alone/each day] [one;in one/hundred/HOSPITAL ADMISSIONS..IS..*FOR adverse/'reaction to prescribed*pills/medications.[1 in 10..results in death] so yes..we got;.HUGE/drug problem'S/ but booze..is too big to fail/..too big to jail..toO big to take on..and pays too well.[to lobby.with free-booze and easy chicks/or young boys..for those rejecting the chicks. coppers love;.going through/the kiddies drawers/love saying..i smell drugs..[no warrant needed]..the lawyers..love the drug income[300 bucks per guilty plea..means many take home 2 to 5 grand;;;for a half days work/clever/monied-up/lobby likely gives;.all the fine revenue back to lawyers be they the lawyers/who wrote the laws/or;.the 60/PERCENT oF politicization;.who are or were lawyers/pass the ACTS into law..TO THE JUDGES [FORMER LAWYERS]//JUDGING THE LAW IN COURT/TO THE JUDGES HEARING THE APPEALS..TO THE LAWYERS INVESTING THEIR;LOOT IN\TO PRIVATE PRISONS TO;..THE SECURITY AGENCIES..SELLING DOPE ON THE STREETS TO PAY FOR SECRET WARS/there are huge dollars..in drugs/these criminals do the real crime/they spun the lines and the studies..and the web links..the useless idiots;parrot out.in threads like these. the gas mask trick/is found in..the emperor wears/no clothes.link not that you wise-guys;;care about facts/ here is.a more auSSIE/PERSPECTIVE..ON THE PLANT/ ONly/put into...a drug list.by clever fraud/taught in a weekend/course..how TO SCHEDULE..A PLANT/INTO A DRUG PATHETIC/....do thy-selves a favor LEARN..SOME TRUTH BEFORE YA DIE http://eprints.qut.edu.au/15949/1/John_Jiggens_Thesis.pdf media lies/go figure http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/nsa_and_news_outlets_team_up_to_propagandize_20140405#.U0KM6DvHUCk.twitter http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/secret-military-suicides-exposed/ http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/media-manipulation-seymour-hersh-unearths-lies-syria/ ANYHOW..SOMETIMES....we know too much[i soon...will be dead] some/have..seen the end game..then give up http://www.hangthebankers.com/another-ex-ceo-banker-found-dead-along-with-wife-and-daughter/ no good/COP http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/06/hayden-feinstein-too-emotional-about-cia-interrogation-techniques/ http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/news/200/kerr-mcgee-to-pay-5-15-billion-for-85-years-of-poisoning-the-earth/ only the wikiseed/wikigeld CAN SAVE YOU/ http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/opinion/krugman-oligarchs-and-money.html?hp&rref=opinion IN THE END..only THIS PLANT STANDS..Between life/death http://investmentwatchblog.com/rick-santelli-the-fed-has-no-encore-after-qe-for-black-swan-event/ http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/04/07/darth-vader-economics-why-the-banksters-want-inflation-for-us/ HOW..LONG/Does BLADDER-CANCER/TAKE..TO..do its thing? hurry/up..[i want out../of this hell.]..[CANT/YOU..TELL?]..JUST AS WELL. Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 7:21:01 AM
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BAZ you would have to concede that a lot of major crime has decreased because heavy duty crims just go onto the drug market because it is just the biggest game in town. I would concede that we spend as much on anti-drugs as the addicts spend on drugs however.
I really believe the good senator should have a crack at legalising all drugs. It would be cheaper to supply heroin, ice and cannabis cigarettes, taxed than the current system. A large note "These products will harm you! You are prohibited, by law, from seeking any compensation" should be on every prescription. The sooner the better. No 200 years of research, committees etc. Lets just give it a go. Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 6:22:48 PM
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http://www.policymic.com/articles/87383/3-months-later-here-s-what-denver-looks-like-since-legalizing-marijuana
3 Months Later, Here's What Denver Looks Like Since Legalizing Marijuana Three months following Colorado's decision to legalize the production, sale, possession and use of recreational marijuana — a vote that Denver city officials including Mayor Michael Hancock, among others, fought kicking and screaming — guess what's happened to Denver crime rates in 2014? According to new data, they've fallen across the board. Property crime is down 14.6% compared to the same period in 2013. Violent crimes are down 2.4%. http://rss.infowars.com/20140414_Mon_Alex.mp3 http://intellihub.com/anonymous-dhs-whistleblower-alleges-bundy-ranch-surrender-strategical-ploy/ http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/04/14/exclusive-new-images-of-blm-warzone-expose-feds-military-fiasco-in-nevada/ http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/reject-lies-secret-police/ Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 2:16:11 PM
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Well I was unsure whether this is correct and then I thought well if had been deleterious we would certainly have heard so it must be right. We must make sure we publisize this.
Posted by JBowyer, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 6:45:38 PM
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Marijuana legalisation pundits should not be so gung-ho about outcomes in the USA states that have legalised pot. The article, "Colorado deaths raise concerns about pot", reports the following unhappy outcomes:
"TWO deaths have raised concerns about Colorado's recently legalised recreational marijuana industry. This concern is heightened by data suggesting cookies, sweets and other of the drug's edibles can be exponentially more potent than a joint. In one case, a college student ate more than the recommended dose of a marijuana-laced cookie and jumped to his death from a hotel balcony. In the other, a husband with no history of violence is accused of shooting his wife in the head, possibly after eating pot-infused lollies. "We're seeing hallucinations. They become sick to their stomachs, they throw up, they become dizzy and very anxious," said Al Bronstein, medical director of the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center. Colorado is one of the first two US states to legalise the recreational use of marijuana and authorities across the country are watching carefully for what happens next. Studies are mixed about whether there is any link between marijuana and violence. Still, pot legalisation opponents said the deaths are a sign of future dangers. Twenty-six people have reported poisonings from marijuana edibles this year, when the centre started tracking such exposures. Six were children who swallowed innocent-looking edibles, most of which were in plain sight. Five of those kids were sent to emergency rooms and two to hospitals for intensive care, Bronstein said." Read more at http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/colorado-deaths-raise-concerns-about-pot/story-e6frfkui-1226889714803 Posted by Raycom, Saturday, 19 April 2014 12:44:04 PM
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THC WORKS PHYSIOLOGICALLY..THE 'RUSH'..IS SIMPLY THE AFFECT OF OUR ARTERIES OPENING[HENCE THE RED EYES]..THATS ABOYT ALL EXCEPT FOR WHAT WE TALK OURSELVES INTO..[MOSTLY ITS PEOPLE OVER ACTING/LIKE THEM HORROR MOVIES THE FBI USED TO MAKE]
most of tHE LASWS WERE CREATED WITHOUT A QUORUM BUT LAWYERS JUDGE THE LAWS/MADE THE LAWS AND WROTE THE LAWS/BASED ON THE MACHINE GUN TAX*..[RECALL THEY USED THE TAX LAWS TO GET AL CAPONE/THE BOOZE JUNKY/BUSH..ETC]..NOT FOR AVOIDING TAX..BY FUIBBING ON THE FORM SAME THING WITH CANNABIS..THERE IS A LIST..OF WHITE POWDERED pure-DRUGS.IT HAS ON IT ONE PLANT/..MADE UP OF OVER 5000 drug compounds/ look if i sold you aprin..yet gave you willow bark..you could rightfully complaine..but because of clever spin merchants name changers and lies the war on gods goes on more lies? 12 MILLION YANKS MISSFIAGNOSED A YEAR http://rt.com/usa/medical-exam-misdiagnosis-wrong-284/ go ahead present your delusions/you never puffed a \joint/yet get off on saying we are the crazey ones...why you a copper or a scummy lawyer getting off on LOCKING KIDS UP IN JAIL OK..LETS SAY IT REALLY IS MORAL OF PHYSICAL DANGER WHERE /HOW HAS IT BECOME A LEGAL POLICE ISSUE/NO VICTIM NO CRIME YOU MAKE ME SICK..no critical thinking.. just accept the lies/worse parrot them back..why? http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/april_2014/37_of_voters_fear_the_federal_government GOVTS LIE//WHY? http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2014/04/18/pictures-dont-lie-refuting-there_was_no_palestine/ http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-rule-of-nobody-saving-america-from-dead-laws-and-broken-government-qa-with-philip-k-howard/ http://warisacrime.org/content/war-good-us-dumb-new-book-claims http://www.thedailysheeple.com/measles-witch-hunt-anti-vax-parents-burned-at-the-propaganda-stake_042014 http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/corruption-mainstream-media/ http://www.nutritionalanarchy.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=790&action=edit http://warisacrime.org/content/war-good-us-dumb-new-book-claims Posted by one under god, Saturday, 19 April 2014 1:32:13 PM
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FIRST POST WAS LOST..im getting to the point where dope isnt holding back my anger/so im about to become a former smoker[and if you think thats good think again]
im so angry i went searching for a link/THEN LOST THE FIRST PART OF THE POST.IT MENTIONED THAT ONE IN 100 HOSPITAL ADMISSIONS/RESULTS IN 1 IN TEN READ..[THE LINK SAID 12 MILLION..SO THE OTHER DRUGS..LILLED 120,000 AND THE BEST YOU CAN COME UP WITH IS SICK KIDS NOT DEAD KIDS LIKE THE OTHERS JUST MENTIONED/ADVERSE REACTIONS TO YOUR PRESCRIBED MEDS/I WOULD PREFER SICK TO DEAD I REALLY CANT BBE BOTHERED WITH HATERS LIKE YOU ITS JUST MAKING ME TOO ANGRY...cannabis has never kiled anyone your article just validates that[plus you talked of a nutter jumping off the cliff/go figure 2 in 100 cannabis smokers/do have phycosis..[you may have heard this before..2 in 100..yes are insane but before you feel too clever/in the non smokingits 4 /100 so we got half the crazies you do/further this rubbish re ten times stronger..thats like saying thE WATER IS TEN TIMES MORE WET[SEE OUR BODY HAS FINITE THC/CANABINOL RECEPTORS..ONECE EACH HAS A CANABINOL/THATS AS STONED AS ONE CAN GET HEMP ACTS [PHYSIOLOGICALLY..[RED Eyes/ the rush IS YOUR ARTERIES EXPANDING..JUST THAT THE RUSH IS YOUR VEINS OPENING/writing on this keyboard is annoying..do as you like/but come to my court case 6 may..im going to rip the case to shreds like any lawyer could have done/but didnt thanks for forcing me to explain/yet again i now you wont say ooops sorry oh hell take him away Posted by one under god, Saturday, 19 April 2014 1:51:46 PM
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http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/corporate-media-journalists-perpetuate-lies-misinformation-drugs/
we know that drug sales fight secret wars http://12160.info/page/polls-americans-are-sick-of-the-war-on-terror-war-on-drugs-and-al that security agencies and the pentagram tun on frug money http://investmentwatchblog.com/big-banks-started-laundering-massive-sums-of-drug-money-in-the-1980s-and-are-still-doing-it-today/ http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/heroin-production-hits-record-levels-afghanistan-study/ http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/05/bbc-propaganda-hits-new-all-time-low/ http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/05/01/comes-vaccine-promotion-safety-always-follow-money-discover-source/ http://12160.info/video/what-really-happened-radio-show-michael-rivero-thursday-may-1 http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/25409893/bunkerville-residents-sound-off-about-blm-police-media#.U2ND--3FXTk.facebook http://investmentwatchblog.com/america-was-just-defeated-from-within-today-4292014-martial-law-is-next/ http://12160.info/group/greatquotes/forum/topics/new-world-order-quotes-we http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/reviving-government-people/ http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html Posted by one under god, Saturday, 3 May 2014 3:30:49 PM
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I am sure the Senator has read all our posts and I just hope he actually has a go at doing something. He should put up for a trial of two years in the whole of Australia or perhaps just his own State but ask for a referendum to authorise it. I am sure the other pollies would say NO but look at us here and our opinions. I reckon there would be a good chance of getting this up. If you read this Senator have a go for goodness sake you know it is the right thing to do and you will have plenty of people cheering you on!
Dare I add that if this took off it could really take off world wide and deliver some really good results. Posted by JBowyer, Saturday, 3 May 2014 5:18:51 PM
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i agree jb..its a plant/that helped people get to the age of plenty/the roaring twenties..then dupont invented plastic..to sell theirplastic they needed to get rid of hemp..so they did/sent hemp growers broke/vua the machine gun tax..protype on stuff called marijuanna..
[no one knew it was hemp/then for a long time no one knew it was cannabis sativa.ruderalis or indica/the fibbers hadnt yet testified in court under oath that all cannabis is CANNABIS/saTiva only..[BECAUSE A NON CHEMIST NON BOTANIST SAYS ITS ON A LIST [SORRY SCEDUAL]..OF OTHER DRUGS THAT ARE ALL POWDERS [EXCEPT HEMP AS JUSTICE STAPLES SAID HOW ABSURD A AW THAT CLASSIFIES A PLANT TO BE A DRUG..damm caps BUT WHY IM WRITING IS UNDER THE FEDERAL CONSTITUTION IS A STATE LAW that says where state laws are divergent/they fal under federal law to the extent of the disception..[and there is no federal law] but i have had the same offence judged in two states in canberra half a pound opf seed and 151 plants got me $65 dollar fine..plus auto mobile licence suspension for life in qld the same offence got me 3 months 3 months and 3 months served concurrently..plus two other fines and a free lawyer who forced a guilty plea my point is when i appeal the court case 6 may i will be goING BACK TO CANBERRA TO APPEAL ALL MY COURT CASES AND going for damages.each seed is a plant/each plant=one pound of seed/they bred 3 harvests per year..and they been taking seds aND PLANTS OFF me since 1986..thats a lot of seeds plants seeds..in fact its more than al the hemp seed in the world and govt stole it from all of you se wikiseed wikigeld/i was speared in front of old [parlement house on good friday 2002..[it should be available from two cameras]..the pint being no one wants it and im OVER THE LIES OF THE LOT OF IT 6MAY IS MYJUDGMENT DAY..HOPEFULLY GOVT CAN MAKE THIS ONGOING ABUSE GO AWAUY I FULLY EXPECT OBAMA TO PARDON ALL DRUG USERS. SOONER RATHER THAN LATER Posted by one under god, Saturday, 3 May 2014 6:04:10 PM
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the state pretends..it is god/Making revenue moralist law
by exclusive/.icence..it iSSUES SPECIAL DISPENSATION/FRANCHISE\licence/..but the permissions/are rooted..IN FRAUD/YOU MUST KNOW..MIGHT..DONT MAKE RIGHT. THE DRUG WAR ISNT CONSTITUTIONALLY SOUND WHere is it writtEN GOVT CAN DEC;ARE WAR ON KIDS? its not..for us/to bear,*youR IGNORANCE/your/debt\revenue raising govt/is there..to serve/Protect.[NOT MAKE criminals of us all]... karma..will give just deserts..in timE..[to our CREDIT/shame]. GOVT MAY/might REALISE IT..shame/shame..ITS A scam..stop this rigged [NOT EVEN JURY RIGGED.. cauSE ITS DECIDED IN ONE DAY..A BEFORE ONE WHO MUST TAKE A BOTANIST CLASSIFYING A PLANT AS A SCEDUal/DRUG when all the other 'drUGS ON THE 20 PAGES OF LIST ARE CASSIFIED BY chemists here is this 'anaLYST'..WHO LOOKS AT THE STUFF/Visualy THEN SAYS YES THATS A DRUG on the drug list.and because thats on paper/suddenly a plant becomes a drug. no0t by chemiST..NOR EVEN BOTANIST/BUT BY ANALYst [ps analysTS ATTEND A WEEKEND WORKSHOP/ON HOW to judge a plant a drug if they say so//aspirin will LOOK LIKE WILLOW BARK GOVT/CREATED..A LEGAL FICTION/SIMPLY\TO GET..EXTRA POLICE POWERS..AND EXTRA CASH FlOW..$$$ [read..the drugs act/.. drugs..WASNT WHY..IT WAS WRITTEN] AS..IF botanists can..clasify..PlANTS..INTO/drugs/why\r chemists/CLASSIFYING PLANtS? THEN..THE SCHEDULE..lo..that lists ..a plant to be a chemical?[drug]..its bull..IT WOULD BE FUNNY.IF IT WASNT CRIMINALIZING KIDS FOR LIfe..rejecting casting us out impoverishing..its unlawful..or at least unconstitutional..if the con supports the coN..THE CON IS WRONG a diabetic IS ENTITLED TO HIS MEDISIN IM ENTITLED TO TRY To aliviate my anger/its up to me..not you[MEN IN BACK/blue drug use is medical issue how is it a police issue/but to raISE REVENUE its a sin tax/that makes jobs for the boys with govt contracts to imprisson..the customers for money for the gew corporations running work house jails...and tHE MANY SECURITY AGENCIES FINANCING SECRET WARS TRUTH BE TOLD ITS CRImanal/MORALY REPUGNANT/IF UT HAPPENS TO YOU when the good KIDS EXPERIMENTING..[hurting no one]..get hassled by police ..and bankers scaming your purse run free..someONE HAS TO STAND UP/ FEDERALLY.. or live with their inaction..eternally Posted by one under god, Thursday, 8 May 2014 7:28:56 AM
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The Endocannabinoid System and How THC Cures Cancer
Marco Torres, Prevent Disease Waking Times http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/05/17/endocannabinoid-system-thc-cures-cancer/ There are close to 20,000 studies on cannabinoids in the pubmed database. Few scientists who concentrate their work around cannabinoids can deny the tremendous therapeutic potential of cannabis. Dr. Christina Sanchez, a molecular biologist at Compultense University in Madrid Spain, has completed extensive research … More http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/05/17/endocannabinoid-system-thc-cures-cancer/ http://therundownlive.com/longest-running-university-gmo-study-found-tumors-rats-pulled-publisher/ http://investmentwatchblog.com/gmo-terrorists-russia-seeks-criminal-punishment-for-bio-tech-companies/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NTYHFG5214&noredirect=1 http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/05/17/conspiracy-theorists-vindicated-haarp-confirmed-weather-manipulation-tool/ Posted by one under god, Monday, 19 May 2014 2:26:39 PM
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Charlotte’s Web: A new strain of medical marijuana designed for kids with epilepsy
http://intellihub.com/charlottes-web-new-strain-medical-marijuana-designed-kids-epilepsy/ Marijuana containing the active ingredient ascannabidiol instead of THC will hit dispensaries sometime in 2015 as epileptic patients await it Rick Santelli: What Would We Do Without The Government - They Are Not Here To Help, But They Are Here To Make Everything More Expensive... http://xrepublic.tv/node/8961 http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/great-boycott-monsanto-gma/ so science lied/by taxonomic lie http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2631477/Revealed-How-green-zealots-gagged-professor-dared-question-global-warming.html Posted by one under god, Monday, 19 May 2014 5:45:53 PM
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we have drug wars/because we have drug laws
its all planed down to the last bust who can you trust/[lawyers are there to see you dont waste the courts time[lawyers are the biggest beneficiary in this war on drug users.] its all scammed ever sin tax is weighted to the last pen-ink wet signATURE. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/enron-2-0-wall-street-wants-manipulate-state-energy-markets-just-like-manipulates-every-market.html science can manipulate facts http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/ lie for funding faulse science create a crisis..in our Minds invent guilt sin taxes..revenue raising..but its based on science malfeasance..science fraud..bribing science mind and out and out science fraud..[more science fraud/ more law intransigence/more cop-complicity..and court procedure/ read formulated scriptred fraud...revenue raising..in lue of justice.] http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/new-reason-wheat-gmos-can-destroy-health/ Posted by one under god, Monday, 26 May 2014 7:07:38 AM
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HOW DOES A VICTIM OF THE DRUG WAR
GET ONLY ONE COURT MENTION[by pretending the others never happend still how to correct a wrong record..not necessarily INACCURATE..BUT WRONG. http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=9392 Posted by one under god, Saturday, 7 June 2014 5:45:49 PM
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