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Area 51: secret conspiracy or simply science? : Comments

By Everett Themer, published 24/2/2014

People love a conspiracy. From political assassinations to the manipulation of national and global economies, supposed experts put forth theories that mysterious and powerful forces are always at work in the shadows.

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"They mistakenly claim that citizens have a right to know what is being done with their tax dollars. These same people, if asked by their employers to document how they spend their salaries, would refuse and claim that it was a violation of their right to privacy."

The real conspiracy would be your attempt to have us believe this is a valid comparative analogy...

Besides, it is possible to be confident that "...powerful forces are always at work in the shadows" without subscribing to the default position that everything is a conspiracy or even that all powerful forces are axiomatically evil.

Even if the illuminati reptilians are.
Posted by WmTrevor, Monday, 24 February 2014 8:11:33 AM
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area 51..plus aliens..ITS All bullshite
think..if they been here so long..they helped cause the problems
NOT HERE TO HELP end them.

THINK FURTHER..THE NEAREST OTHER STAR....NEXT SOLAR SYSTEM..IS 30 GENERATIONS AWAY..[IE AT LIGHT SPEED/AN IMPOSSABLE SPEED FOR MATTER]..IT WOULD TAE OVER 2000 YEARS

THINK HOW MANY GENWERATIONS BETWEEN CHRIST/THEN..AND THE NOW YOU
SO ANY ALIENs would be an inbred lite self educated into delusion/like any ISOLATED Sect..ends up

ie war mongering EGOTISTS..WHO THINK THEY ALONE../KNOW IT ALL
its a delusion of men/just like evolution into new genus.

fraud fraud fraud..run
that being said..some amasing inventions have been suppressed
BUT THESE TOO WERE ALL HUMAN/SEE THEY CAN MANIPLUATE EVERYONE OF US/INto0 seeing anything

its just important..to knoW..ITS NOT ALIEN
ITS ELITE BACK UP PLAN B..a saviour..the next obama/GLOBALLY

THUS I PRE NOMINATED HIM
GEORGE*8

when they genocide 2/3 rd and you SEE ALIENS
YOU WILL know its offerr REFUSED..BUT RECALL you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars/the old will dream dreams..the young will/be drugged to their eyeballs into complicity

into bonded debt..from cradle into grave
thats where the grey men..lead us/the 50 shades of hades.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6152&page=0#178808
Posted by one under god, Monday, 24 February 2014 1:26:37 PM
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"These same people, if asked by their employers to document how they spend their salaries, would refuse and claim that it was a violation of their right to privacy."

Utterly wrong analogy. Perhaps "These same people, if asked by their employers to document how they spent the employers money, would be required to do so."

I get that not everything governments does should be in the public domain because there is no reliable way of sharing secret info just with the citizens of a country. The problems are that there is often no credible oversight to ensure that what is being kept secret is kept that way for the right reasons and also the unusually long time some secrets are kept (well past any technical need for the secrets).

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 24 February 2014 4:27:19 PM
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area 51...my god
The Cold war dictated that advanced research had to be conducted in secrecy. Simple as that. what better way was there to do this than using a air base that was 30 min flight by 707 jet.
Today the base does not seem so relevant , with spy satellites and hacking.
What better way was there to conduct test flights ,bombers flying at mach4 and advanced fighters like the F22. This all started at the Skunk works which is Mc Donald Douglas at Area 51.
But now there are no more secrets , anyone can see the Area 51 site from any number of web sites and in many cases see fighter aircraft parked on the ramps.
Of course the really secret stuff is still in the area of Area 51 which has once again been divided into another secret section but I cant remember its name.
Aliens? Who knows...time will tell.
In the Australian context of this article...Woomera....did the government really close the base when it was found out the military was conducting missile tests?
So...Who knows what is still going on at Area 51...but for sure...it still is going on
Posted by robbo5, Monday, 24 February 2014 7:37:24 PM
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Everett Themer in "Area 51: secret conspiracy or simply science?" has provided a sober analysis debunking the conspiracy theories surrounding this US military base. However, I don't see how this is of much relevance to the average reader of Online Opinion, who would not fall for such nutty theories in the first place and is likely to have little interest in a remote US facility.

Perhaps we need some home grown conspiracy theories about Australian installations:

1. What are those mysterious circular structures at RAAF Scherger, which show up on the satellite photos? http://goo.gl/maps/wc52i

2. Are those kilometres of antennas in Queensland really for a military radar, or are they to communicate with aliens? http://wikimapia.org/3443439/JORN-Queensland-Jindalee-Transmit-Site-via-LONGREACH

;-)
Posted by tomw, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 8:42:07 AM
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Oh please, tomw, don't get him started.

>>I don't see how this is of much relevance to the average reader of Online Opinion, who would not fall for such nutty theories in the first place and is likely to have little interest in a remote US facility.<<

That's just asking for trouble.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 8:49:28 AM
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