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System reconstruction in Australia is long overdue : Comments

By Klaas Woldring, published 3/1/2014

Non-Westminster systems in western Europe provide alternatives Australia needs to look at. The Scandinavian, Dutch, German and Austrian systems provide flexibilities that do not exist here.

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What perception and ambition!

Please make it your indefatigable campaign to get your vision implemented, even if only by small steps.

Best wishes for your health and personal security, so that this much needed task could be undertaken.

chek
Posted by Chek, Friday, 3 January 2014 10:01:43 AM
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It's pointless to change a system when there isn't a hope in hell to achieve a change in mentality.
The mentalities of everyone owes me a living, grab as much as you can even if it's not needed, pay as little tax as possible, we're the best (yeah right) etc etc are what needs to change.
The first step is to establish a national service so that real thinkers can exercise their privilege for the benefit of all..
Posted by individual, Friday, 3 January 2014 11:21:46 AM
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Woldring is spot on with his assessment of the Abbott Coalition. People could now be realising that neither of the major parties is worth voting for; itís just a pity that there are no other options. They have not stopped the boats; they have increased the debt limit (after rubbishing the last galahs for going deeper into debt), and they donít want to talk about anything publicly. The Abbott inspired maternal leave and payment arrangements are a shocking luxury that cannot be afforded, and then thereís the surrender to the Gonski scheme of billions when money is not what is needed for better education.

Abbott as PM is a shocking blow to conservatism in Australia.

The suggested changing of the Constitution, however, and the German model where extremists like the Greens have more say is a worry, however. Better to make changes from the bottom up; Australians can do it, but they have shown no desire to do so and probably never will.
Posted by NeverTrustPoliticians, Friday, 3 January 2014 11:23:58 AM
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No, Chek, Woldring has no "vision", but is myopic, and is fostering old illusions. NeverTrustPoliticians does not go far enough in his critique, if Woldring is correct that "a real crisis is around the corner". No Australian government, whatever its constitution, for example, has any influence over the Chinese economy.
Petty parochial politics is bread and circus in today's globalised world of monopolised capitalism.
Posted by Leslie, Friday, 3 January 2014 12:15:41 PM
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Systems of representative government are all subject to "You elect them, we buy them". How about the system that exists in a variety of forms in 26 American States: Binding Citizen-Initiated Referenda, BCIR, a.k.a _democracy_ which representative government sure isn't though it's wrongly labelled as such?

See http://www.theindependentaustralian.com.au/node/34 (which regrettably contains some historical errors about California)
Posted by EmperorJulian, Friday, 3 January 2014 12:43:47 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me how labor voters can be so judgmental while conveniently forgetting just how we came to be in the position we are in today.

In fact, going back six years, had we engaged the best in the business to stuff things up, they could not have done a better job and, the worrying part is that the mess created by labor, was done so during boom times, times that are simply not going to be repeated during the next term.

My grand kids will be paying for this mess, and they're not even born yet.

As for a better system, get rid of the hanger oners and make people earn what they receive and while your at it, stop pissing into a fan on issues like indigenous reform because I'm sick of seeing my taxes wasted on pointless endeavors.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 3 January 2014 1:23:23 PM
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