When the F111, F 18 etc were being discussed as the next Australian fighter, the very much cheaper Harrier was available.
It could land and take off anywhere without the benefit of an airfield.
It was superb as a strafing aircraft for ground support. It could and did outmanoeuvre and destroy much faster jets as it did in the Falklands.
They could be hidden in out of the way places till required and then appear out of the blue to strike.
They could even be carried and used from commercial shipping.
They would have been the ideal aircraft for the RAAF.
But they lacked panache.
No they did not put on a show burning thousands of gallons of fuel at air shows as they blowtorched their way across an airfield.
They were chosen by the US marines and did a good job for them.
When the Afghan war was on they were STILL in use as ground support aircraft.
Why do we have to have the latest toy in the US toy store when the Harrier and it's updates version would be of better and cheaper use to us?

why i can sleep at night
http://rss.infowars.com/20131223_Mon_Alex.mp3
alex was talking today regarding bill biff william hammon..hannon?
thus i have been..pre occupied..trying to spell..it

anyhow..it looks like biff*..got hit by a double whammy.

the working theory so/far seems to be..[i have to/say it alex].. malfeasance..see antibiotic...has in-it a mould killer..[but it kills off benificient molds..[without micro flora..our body cant process nutrients]..deies

hear yesterdaYS..CALLER..

anyhow go biff hamon

pericules..<<..Perhaps I didn't grieve enough.>>

grief..is so hard..on/the departed..
spiritually..it holds them back..from/adjusting to their new life
see our grief is FELT physically..by the departed..yet there they are HELPLESS..to make you know..they live
see
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Subaltern_Spirit_Land.pdf

trauma also requires great attention..[see blue island]
http://www.ghostcircle.com/ebooks/William%20T%20Stead%20-%20The%20Blue%20Island%20Pardoe%20Woodman%20&%20E%20Stead%20.pdf

anyhow..has*been..[will/be]..your departed father..never departed
here is a example..of what the..dead..can*..go through/after life
the 'hero..was well known..at the time..and unlike biff..was a scoundrel

anyhow it follows on from page 8[on.the pdf bar]
but properly..on..page 3..of the book..[page three will show up..as page 9]

anyhow..note the times..it was written[100 years ago]..yet EVEN then
he had an..ipad..[moving picture frame/that showed him..in real-time..what his beloved was going through

http://new-birth.net/booklet/Wanderer_a4.pdf

please recall alex is key..in..this..edward snowden project
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6152#178808

if i want my father..i just have a drink..with him...
the dead arnt dead[so please guys..get that out of your head]

this too is a key text..in the intro is a science thesis..from the same time[please note..electrification..dumbed down..out receptivity
plus drugs booze..tv..but then death so frightens some.

fear no evil
http://www.divinetruth.com/PDF/People/Other/Jane%20Sherwood%20-%20Post%20Mortem%20Journal.pdf
even atheists are having their vieuw
http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=15624
i just need some time to read/edit it..one day

Hi Baz,

If I had not read your bio I would not have picked you as Military. I will just say this, any military defense power is dependent in it’s ability to attack and defend across a broad range tactical and strategic assets within its geographic domain.

To focus on a single piece of “perhaps” great technology in the F35 seems a bit nonsensical.

The vast oceans around Australia pose greater problems for potential attackers than for us. How on earth would and enemy cross such distances with air transports needing refueling, ships that are exposed to attack by subs and finally, all of the above being picked of by land based “pop ups” like the F35.

Your not making sense laddy.

I am with Warmair. Drones are the go. Cheap and cheerful and we do not lose actual pilots, in fact anyone can pilot them to the battle and then the expert can take over.
We are always fighting the last war but Eisenhower said "Beware the military industrial complex". They will pay for fly boys to tell us how good they are by us paying top dollar for stuff that gets knocked out quick smart.

Love the discussion thus far except Mr. / Ms " under one god" ... Don't know what your'e on about.

But merry christmas to all and I hope you all have a very safe, happy and prosperous new year.

About the invasion of Australia ... thank god for the Norforce they're worth more for the defence of this great place than any number of F35's

I suspect the enemy has already arrived. They are just waiting to be in big enough numbers to enforce their laws. They will keep breeding and Aussies will keep aborting. No need to invade.