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The brutal past and present are another country in secret Australia : Comments

By John Pilger, published 14/11/2013

Suppressing these truths, while venerating Australia's servile role in the colonial wars of Britain and the US, has almost cult status in Canberra today.

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John, John, John, we all know of your famed dredging up of Australia's past wrongs, of course, you can do this with any Colonial Nation anywhere in the World. There was a notion of European Superiority that pervaded all Colonial Powers at the time. That notion declined during the 19th. Century & ceased for most Nations in the 20th. Century. I know Australia was a bit behind because of people like Menzies but the World, & Australia, has moved on since the 60/70's.

Yes, there are things that have yet to catch up. We recognize this. Governments & the Public Service's are notorious slow. Studies done by Academics dream up, one after another, all sorts of meaningless Politically Correct schemes that prove to be more than useless. These Studies are undertaken by people who are educated Academics & are all too willing to do another useless Study (yourself included) as long as the funding keeps flowing. By the way is this advertising for you film?

I now comment on your article.
Edmund Barton, who drew up the White Australia Policy in 1901. "The doctrine of the equality of man," said Barton, "was never intended to apply" to those not British and white-skinned.

Of course he would have said that. That was the pervading sentiment of all Colonial Nations 100 years ago. We have moved on.

Of those who fought the British invaders of Australia, the Sydney Monitor reported in 1838: "It was resolved to exterminate the whole race of blacks in that quarter."

Remember, if it wasn't European than it didn't exist in those days. "Terra Nullius" not only applied to Australia but to anywhere where Europeans weren't.

Last year, the then minister for indigenous affairs, Jenny Macklin, refurbished her office at a cost to the taxpayer of $331,144.

Yes, Politicians of any description love to live it up at the Taxpayers' expense. We ALL know that.

A typical, dilapidated house in an outback indigenous community must accommodate as many as 25 people. Families, the elderly and the disabled wait years for sanitation that works.

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Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 14 November 2013 12:50:38 PM
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One of my favourite gripes. Let's look at this in detail. Accommodation; this is a problem caused, not by the White Community, but by the Aboriginal Community themselves. It's THEIR Culture to share everything with their extended families. Sanitation; Well the Bush was fine foe Aboriginal people for 80 thousand years. Now they have "White" toilets that THEY damage & don't clean or repair & it's the white man's fault?

In 2009, Professor James Anaya, the respected UN Rapporteur on the rights of indigenous people, described as racist a "state of emergency" that stripped indigenous communities of their tenuous rights and services on the pretext that paedophile gangs were present in "unthinkable" numbers – a claim dismissed as false by police and the Australian Crime Commission.

The paedophile Gangs are real. The Police & the ACC wouldn't admit it because they would be seen as falling down on their job. Sort of Ostrich Act. It was the women that called for help & the men, who were perpetuating these act complained & losing out on their lucrative funding , some of them VIP's in their communities, so the whole thing became too hard & was dropped. By the way, it was because of the practises of these Paedophile gangs that the Stolen Children episode came about, some 80 years ago.

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Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 14 November 2013 12:53:03 PM
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The then opposition spokesman on indigenous affairs, Tony Abbott, told Anaya to "get a life" and not "just listen to the old victim brigade."

I know, it's not Politically Correct but he was right on this occasion. The Old Victims Brigade stand to make a lot of money from the Government. The money never goes any further than the Aboriginal Organizations set up to help their people. It they did improve their peoples lot then they might lose their well paying job. As told to me by a friend who is an Aboriginal Officer that deals in this area.

Watch security guards expel Aboriginal people from shopping malls in Alice Springs; drive the short distance from the suburban barbies of Cromwell Terrace to Whitegate camp, where the tin shacks have no reliable power and water.

I've seen the same thing in Townsville. Strangely though it's the same type of Aboriginal person that is ejected. Here you, John, are making it sound like all Aboriginal people are ejected from Alice Spring Shopping Malls. People are not stupid, well some are, they don't believe that to be entirely true. Yes some Aboriginal people are. The filthy, the rotten drunks, the abusive & their white hangeroners. They are the ones that get ejected & then only after they become really offensive. The same problem exists in Townsville & other similar cities, & rightly so. People, even Aboriginal people have the right to go about their business unmolested by this particular type of person.

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Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 14 November 2013 12:55:44 PM
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How do you solve Aboriginal problems, well if you lived in Townsville & drove a car you'd have to be travelling Southward & in the right Gere with a couple of well known ladies to answer that question. Aboriginal Organizations have a tendency to go bust & all of the funding can never be accounted for. The Organization is disbanded & another one set up to take its place. Strangely the same people are always running the show., Usually the Manager & the Treasurer just swap around. A few years later the same problem occurs, an investigation is conducted, no one is held responsible & the same thing happens again & again. I don't know about the rest of Australia but I should imagine it would be more of the same.

Then there is the problem of the different types of Aboriginal people not to mention the Islanders. The Islanders are usually hard working members of any community & there has rarely been any problems associated with these people. Except in the 70's when Aboriginal people were dragged off their settlements & forcibly integrated into White Society. Then there were fights between Islanders & Aboriginals on street corners just about every single night. The housing brought for the Aboriginals were soon dilapidated, Electricity was cut off because they didn't know how to use money. Soon floors were missing & fires were seen on the ground under the houses. The floors & wall were pulled up to light fires to cook meals in the traditional way. No help was given to these people in assimilating into a White Society. They turned to Alcohol & stealing property. Remember "Property" is communal in Aboriginal Society.

I digress. Types of Aboriginal people that I identify. City Folk, Town Folk, Settlement Folk & Bush Folk. Unfortunately the Government advised by its brotherhood of Educated Academics has made Policies of a "One Size Fits All" nature. It just won't work!

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Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 14 November 2013 12:56:58 PM
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Jayb

Would you like to reiterate your 28th point mate?

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 14 November 2013 1:10:32 PM
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Hey Pilger.

If you say that white people stole the continent of Australia off black people, that is a racist statement. What happened "their is only one race, the human race" bullshiit that you and your "anti racist" comrades go on, and on, about? And if the instant and Afghan or a Sri Lanka sticks his big toe on Australia he must be considered "Australian", then the instant a British soldier stuck his big toe on Australia he is an "aborigine." The black aborigines would have been racist for denying white people unfettered entry.

The best damn thing that ever happened to the aboriginals was the coming of the British. The white people who settled this hostile country made it into one of the best countries on Earth. If it had remained a black country it would today be just another dysfunctional black ruled country holding out he begging bowl to the rest of the world, and a bigger pain in the but to the international community as aboriginal apartheid areas are today to the Australian people.

The stupid presumption of the "angry young men" of the fifties that independent black countries were going to create harmonious societies with a chicken in every pot was nothing but a pipe dream dreamed up by blithering idiots like you. Now that history has proven you wrong, why don't you just admit you were wrong?

If white people were not running Australia, who would be paying the aboriginal welfare bill and cleaning up the drunken mess in their areas?
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 14 November 2013 6:17:05 PM
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