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Hot air fuels gas threat : Comments

By Matthew Warren, published 29/10/2013

NSW's ministers must not be cowed by a few activists if the state is to avoid a gas supply shock.

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Have to agree, and not just NSW's Ministers either.
Yes we could create a salt problem that may not already actually exist.
But hey, that same salt water can be put though a demin plant and funneled off as town water?
What's left, can be pumped around buried agpipes, covered in membrane, where a number of plant species, with more pulling power than many pumps, will have access to it as a permanent and reliable supply of Ag water.
And the annual six figure compensation packages aren't too lousy either!
And that beats the hell out of trying to make a bare living from a veritable dust bowl.
Sure we need to take all care and due diligence, but we simply can't have the blanket ban, on coal seam gas extraction, some of the more vociferous activists want, as the only allowable solution.
We need the gas to enable our manufacturing base to grow; and we need the manufacturing base, to create anything like a healthy working economy!
I mean, imagine Cuba today, if it but had coal and or commercial gas fields! After all, Gas, or any source of high grade methane, can be fed into ceramic fuel cells to create a very local power supply, or compressed, even a very portable power supply.
And hardly environmentally harmful, given the exhaust product of methane powered ceramic fuel cells, is mostly water vapor.
Moreover, this particular combination is the most energy efficient in the world, with a reported 72% energy coefficient.
Which should also make it one of the cheapest! Hello! Maybe that's the real problem!?
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 11:36:11 AM
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…Great stuff as usual Rhrosty. Localising power generation is the future. Major power plants are proving unacceptable on too many levels: Not the least of which is causation of major bushfires by wire distribution over long distances. This point alone is already at unacceptable risk levels!
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 9:37:30 PM
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Actually Dan it is not long distance power lines that have caused bushfires.
It is always the local distribution lines that cause them.

I understand the worries many have about CSG but it does not need that
massive drilling that has been seen overseas and in Queensland.
That mass drilling is needed only to supply the export market.

We should be keeping the gas for ourselves. We WILL need it.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 1 November 2013 7:13:45 AM
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Hi mathew,

When you want to start scare mongering your defense is to accuse those with the different view of scare mongering.

The volume of opposition to gas projects which started with the greens and moved into then mainstream community because of the penny pinching attitudes of the gas industry. This was aided by the corruption rampant in the state approvals process.

We are subject to a gas project where it was approved in contravention of the laws in NSW. The remedy for the government was to prevent court appeal but fiat.

This project is engineered to a lower standard than a pipeline project built 40 years ago. The route is strictly lower cost and high risk.

Alternate routes require the local farmers to organise their neighbours at no cost to the company.

We have seen massive environmental damage from pipelines installed using the the indicated techniques V's installations in the past which were enginered to to avoid such devastation.

As for local access to the gas, initially the company refused the local community access even with local industry using commercial quantities of gas. The company has since modified this refusal to a multi million quote to tap their pipeline.

Mathew don't try to shift the blame when it lies with the companies you represent and their government mates.
Posted by For Choice, Monday, 4 November 2013 1:00:35 PM
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