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Atheism impedes climate change action : Comments

By Robert Martin, published 22/8/2013

I cannot see how atheists can rationally hold the tension between maximisation of opportunity in the present and simultaneously sacrifice for the future.

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This article is a total fantasy.

The author has created straw man atheists, I could equally portray Christians as heretic massacring psychopaths, there are many examples.

"At its heart, atheism is a selfish, short-sighted worldview. Atheism drives people to live for themselves and live for today. In John Lennon's Imagine, Lennon imagines an atheistic world where people live without heaven and instead, 'live for today'"

The claim that Lennon's musings are a complete atheist worldview is total drivel as is the claim that atheists are egocentric and indifferent to the fate of the earth and future generations, in fact, pious Christians have been the ones plundering the earth for two millennia

Many Christians have retreated from the world in the belief in an eternal reward in Heaven and their "sacrifice" and "good works" were not for future generations, but for themselves.
Posted by mac, Thursday, 22 August 2013 9:52:59 AM
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It would be much easier to argue that religionís obsession with the next world leads believers to conclude that this one doesnít matter.

In fact, I recall Ronald Raganís Secretary for the Environment commenting along the lines that he didnít care about environmental issues because he expected the rapture to occur at any time
Posted by drgal1, Thursday, 22 August 2013 10:02:11 AM
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atheism as an ideology is contradictory in terms and not logical.

atheism means.. there is NO God
as in, NO...proven....decided...absolutely NO.
it is not even an agnostic no...not sure no...i dont want to find out no.

can a 4 dimensional man fully know or fathom the infinite God?
let us make it easier
can a man on earth now make an emphatic claim that there is no naturally occuring black stone with exactly 42 white spots arranged 7 perfect davidic stars on it, somewhere in the universe?

such is the arrogance and hypocrisy of unbelief
Posted by platypus1900, Thursday, 22 August 2013 10:28:11 AM
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I think he is trying to say that you have to be able to believe in a great big sky fairy to believe in climate change, and that Christians are quite happy to sacrifice others to meet their fantasy objectives.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 22 August 2013 11:53:27 AM
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What a load of garbage. I presume the author is a Christian judging by his opinion of Atheists. This makes him about as well qualified to comment on the motivations of an Atheist as I am to comment on the motivations of a Hindu.

He states "At its heart, atheism is a selfish, short-sighted worldview. Atheism drives people to live for themselves and live for today."
How does my unwillingness to believe in fantasy and fairy tales make me selfish and short sighted?
I fail to see how his absurd belief that he will enjoy eternal life in heaven would make him more likely to be concerned about future generations on earth.
As an Atheist I can assure him that I am very concerned about the future. I, like the author, will die at some point. But my legacy will be in the form of my genes carried by my children. If the earth becomes uninhabitable then all is lost. Therefore I am very concerned that I leave the earth in as good a condition as possible for the benefit of my children and their children. Just because I live in the real world, (and not some fantasy world full of gods and demons and heavens and hells) does not mean that I don't care about future generations and their quality of life.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:03:13 PM
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Cripes - a whole article based on a complete misrepresentation of atheism. I am an atheist because I am unable to believe in the existence of any of the gods on offer. This has no impact on my ability to think about or care about the future. I care very much about it, which why I am in favour of a sustainable world population: I would like generations after my death to enjoy a decent lifestyle, enough food, a fair share of the world's resources, fresh water, fish in the ocean
Posted by Candide, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:15:04 PM
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