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Right embarrassed by the truth : Comments

By Richard Stokes, published 26/7/2013

Robert Spencer runs a website called Jihad Watch, and that makes him unpopular in some quarters.

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Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller and Daniel Pipes are universally reviled by both the Right and the Left because they are Jewish and serve only the interests of Israel and the Jewish diaspora, imagine the outrage if a group of conservative Christians started inserting themselves into disputes between Zionists and Palestinians and telling the Zionists what was what? All Anti Islam and counter Jihad activism has support for Zionism at it's core and these groups actively seek to suppress other forms of dissent, be they nationalistic, egalitarian/socialistic or religious in tone.
Believe me, these people are no friends of "the right", they are enemies of both Right/reactioary and Left/progressive thinkers and seek to subordinate all points of view and channel them to one end, support for Israel.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 26 July 2013 8:19:29 AM
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Might I also add that a great many conscientious Jews also condemn Spencer's work and that those who speak out are also targeted by Counter Jihad bullies
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 26 July 2013 8:23:05 AM
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I have never heard of either Spencer or Trifkovic before. However what I do know is that all religions are the same. Just fantasy, dangerous repressive fantasies. The Catholic are no better than Scientologist or Muslim.
I think the French attempt at going the secular route is probably best. The Russians under Stalin repressed but not to any great effect.
I think thinking people should always be equal in their condemnation of all religions, rather than the Left's lickspittle attitude to islam.
I despise them all!
Posted by JBowyer, Friday, 26 July 2013 8:49:33 AM
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Jay of Melbourne,

First, a correction, Spencer is not Jewish, but Catholic.

"All Anti Islam and counter Jihad activism has support for Zionism at it's core..."

All? That's a generalisation, however I agree that Zionist propaganda and pro-Israel sentiments seem to be standard with counter-Jihad sites which obviously undermines their legitimacy with those individuals who are concerned with Islam but appalled by Israel's predatory policies.

It appears from your comments that you don't consider anti-jihad activities, in principle, to be legitimate. Why? Islam is inimical to liberal democracy.
Posted by mac, Friday, 26 July 2013 8:56:49 AM
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Mac,
I don't buy Spencer's life story as he presents it, why would David Horowitz fund a Catholic theologian, he's a neo-con?
I might well be wrong about Spencer but in the end he's a only subordinate of Israel, like Geert Wilders or Rob Messenger, the fact is that all these people do is attack or try to subordinate all dissent with their "defence leagues" and groups such as the Q society, Australian Protectionist Party and now it seems One Nation in Queensland:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/one-nation-in-sticky-spot-over-antihalal-campaign-20130725-2ql3o.html
We also have this strange situation with the planting of an explosive device outside Campsie Police station, having some insight into the operation both "Counter Jihad" groups and Jihadists the information released so far seems to me to point to Anti Islamic activists:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/terrorism-fears-after-bomb-found-at-campsie-police-station/story-fni0cx12-1226685277809

If it's proven that this was the work of Anti Islamic groups then we have a serious problem on our hands, the most extreme example (so far) of where this Spencer/Geller/Horowitz/Pipes milieu can lead people is the Utoya massacre carried out by Counter Jihad fanatic Anders Behring Breivik. Breivik qoutes these people at length in his manifesto and it's understood that he made contributions to their websites and attempted to convert others to his way of thinking via their media.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 26 July 2013 9:40:56 AM
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I dont have time to enter into this racist talk blaming Jews for everything so I quote directly from wikipeadia. "Spencer is a member of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, the Uniat offshoot of the ancient Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch.[4][5] It is a rite of the Catholic Church whose adherents are, according to Spencer, "mostly concentrated in Lebanon and Syria, also in Jordan and the Palestinian territories."[1] His grandparents were forced to emigrate from an area that is now part of Turkey because they were Christians.[1]" Just because someone is pro Israel or anti Jihad doesnt make them jewish and just because they are Jewish doesnt mean their opinion should be dismissed. I hate to say it but sometimes I really do feel like it is 1938 again.Wake up and look at the world around you. the chaos is NOT the jews fault
Posted by SC, Friday, 26 July 2013 10:17:54 AM
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