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A disease of the others : Comments

By Ariadne Minos, published 5/7/2013

It may not look, act or sound like one, but alcoholism is a disease, and these patients are very sick indeed.

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...This is the wrong venue for an article on alcohol abuse: All here are pretty perfect really…(He says with witty sarcasm)!!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 5 July 2013 8:26:27 AM
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The biggest problem with Alcohol is that the grog industry puts 5 million dollars a year into the "legal industry" to fund the defence of Alcoholics that are charged with criminal offences in attempt to cover up the behaviour of these people, they also give a similar amount to the major political parties who are failing in their duty to the general public and are not doing enough to cure this disease, they are turning a blind eye.
The excuse I am often given by politicians is it(the grog industry)gives a lot of "employment". Oh yeah for Police,doctors,nurses and undertakers, all of it a disgraceful waste of taxpayers money.
Posted by lockhartlofty, Friday, 5 July 2013 11:56:08 AM
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Wow
The most intelligent and moving article I have read here. I am a recovering alcoholic and have been going to AA meetings since 1991. It was not until I was forced to accept that drinking was part and parcel of my loneliness and depression (which I already had), and not the fault of other people, that I was able to reach out for help. My heart goes out to the author, and those mentioned in the article. It is a very deep and enormous problem. The people you see in parks drinking from a brown paper bag are actually the ones who have made it that far and are still alive. Most have killed themselves, and others, long before they get to that stage. I wished I could do more to help. Believe me, if you ask yourself if you have a drinking problem, the question IS the answer.
Posted by Cody, Friday, 5 July 2013 1:53:17 PM
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Regretably it will never be possible to remove all risk, Even where we try to do that, other risks can arise.

I rarely drink alcohol. It is just not on where you are trying to maintain an active lifestyle. It is a pity though because there are many wines I like and there are health effects, if only it were not for the alcohol present.

Wouldn't it be nice if families could drink wine together than was very low or no alcohol? That burning fullness of alcohol actually spoils most wines and other alcoholic drinks. Who wants the lady opposite to be off to dream world early in the main course because the red could run an Eighties Mercedes?

Rather than the usual restrictions and bans, the government should be reducing its excise significantly, not just as a token, on wines that are substantially below the usual level of alcohol. We need statesmen in parliament to do that though and they seem to be in very short supply.
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 5 July 2013 4:05:14 PM
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"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced," wrote James Baldwin in The Fire Next Time.

There's nothing sadder than reading about a 'co-dependent' person enslaved to an alcoholic (or drug addict or gambler or smoker, name your addiction). Love sometimes has to let go of the suicider-in-slow-motion
otherwise they both fall off the cliff together. That's not love, that's utter victimisation.

Sometimes one has to be cruel to be kind, and being an alcoholic's crutch is utterly pathetic and insane: if you really love your husband,
then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Posted by SHRODE, Friday, 5 July 2013 4:13:19 PM
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SHRODE:

...Yep..true, but (one) point of the article, was to indicate the inexorable connection of the alcoholic abuser and their co-dependents.
As with all addictions, the prime motivation of the addict is to sustain the addiction: This is best facilitated by enslaving the means of supply, usually the little lady in their life, (I have noticed).
Read the article again (I suggest), to clarify the point.
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 6 July 2013 9:20:12 AM
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