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Manufacturing, men and disability : Comments

By Tanveer Ahmed, published 24/6/2013

Men's Shed has experienced phenomenal growth since its inception in the mid 1990s to combat men's mental health. The Australian innovation now numbers more than one thousand branches across Australasia and Europe.

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I don’t wish to trivialise either men’s mental health problems or the Men’s Shed movement, which might be of value to me, but you wrote “since its inception in the mid 1990s to combat men's mental health.” Surely only the most evil of feminists would want to combat “men’s mental health.” You need to add the word “problems.”

I think that you are being overly pessimistic in saying that “Economic Man is slowly being replaced by Casualised or Unemployed, Depressed Man.” The world is ever-changing, there are far more, and far better, opportunities than were ever provided by “the security of unionised labour in the manufacturing industries.” Part of the problem is that union leaders seek to resist change, not in the interests of their workers or the unemployed, but in their own perceived self-interest as “workers” with personal wealth and power. If the alleged workers’ government of the last six years had embraced change, and recognised that workers’ interests lie in tax and regulatory regimes which encourage entrepreneurial, innovative firms, thus promoting growth in the economy and in new and varied jobs to suit the dispositions of individuals, then there would be far fewer men in need of Shed-care.
Posted by Faustino, Monday, 24 June 2013 1:22:31 PM
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An excellent article, Tanveer. At the risk of immodesty it looks very much like something I'd have written. As regulars at this site will know, I have been talking about all of these issues and more for many years and it's gratifying to see someone of your stature doing the same after years of aggressive feminist agitation, which has caused so much social destruction.

I congratulate you, well done.
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 24 June 2013 5:41:22 PM
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I thought this was a good article in the main, given that any article highlighting help for mental health problems amongst unemployed men was good.

However, I was disappointed to then see the author revert to the predictable, and boring, subject of feminism causing all evil in our world today.
"For all the public heat about misogyny and discrimination against women, it seems that the Y chromosome is the one in real crisis and at both ends of the life cycle."

What crisis do boys have when they are born in this country for goodness sake?

Why can't we just agree that it is a changing world we live in, and those that don't embrace the change and move on from the past, will be left behind?
If they can't move with the times, then they should be able to access help.

We need to pressure governments to provide more mental health facilities and staff to deal with the increasing cases of depression and anxiety disorders in our society today.

Men's sheds are good for some lonely, mildly depressed men who like to work with their hands. They are not for everyone though.
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 1:59:28 AM
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"Predictable[...] subject of feminism causing all evil in our world today"

It's interesting that you should say that Suse. I agree. It's entirely predictable that a political/economic ideology which sets women against men should come to be recognised as inherently misanthropic.

It's also predictable that some women, from their privileged position as objects of a male need to serve and protect, should come to expect and then demand such privilege as of right.

You are an excellent case study of this and your justification is that women possess a vagina, which gives men pleasure. On the basis of that pleasure (you never mention its reciprocal nature) you demand that if an accidental conception occurs a woman must have the right to choose whether to accept the responsibility of having a child, but the man must have no right to choose, but be bound to the service of the woman and child until the child becomes an adult.

Feminism is flawed in its conception and feminists are flawed in their perception.

It's interesting that you (a nurses aide) think yourself qualified to tell a highly experienced and qualified practising psychiatrist (you know, a doctor) who is also a man, that his opinion of the effectiveness of a program aimed to help men who suffer depression because of their exclusion from the social and economic benefits of our society. I'm sure he must be fascinated.
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 5:39:26 AM
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Of course, I somehow omitted to finish the penultimate sentence in that post. It should have finished with the words "is faulty".
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 5:51:23 AM
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Speaking of predictable, we have Antiseptic resorting to personal insults when he can't conduct an informed response to someone else's post...especially women.

Just because you obviously know very little about disability or severe depression, that doesn't mean you should hit out so nastily.

I am a passionate supporter of a campaign to vastly increase the mental health facilities of our area. That includes both male and female sufferers.
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 9:02:44 AM
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