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Francis: the pope of surprises : Comments
By James van Schie, published 15/3/2013Media commentators decided that it was really a question 'who can deliver a swing in the marginal Catholic seats of western Europe or the east and west coast of the USA?'
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Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 15 March 2013 4:06:38 PM
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This video provides a suitable antidote to all the pious nonsense being spoken and written about the poop, the poop-hole called the vatican, and the "catholic" church.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/religion-inc/report-from-the-vatican.html Plus where is Dave Allen when we most need him? His lampooning of the absurdities of "catholic" dogma etc etc were always a delight. Many of his classic "sermons" etc are available on Youtube. One wonders if he would even be allowed on Australian TV in these politically correct times. Politically correct, because I am sure that in the now-time of 2013 all of the usual self-righteous conservative Christians would be lobbying to disallow his weekly show being featured on the ABC - if such were proposed. Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 15 March 2013 6:25:38 PM
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Dear Daffy,
One should indeed take full responsibility for one's presence and actions in the world. The original sin is not some fancy and childish story about Adam and Eve in the garden - our presence in the world IS the original sin and everyone who is in this world may blame him/herself alone for it. By the desire to "know", symbolised by the tree of knowledge, we have strayed from God, interposing our mind between ourselves and Him. We are not humans, never were - it is by our sins that we mistakenly consider ourselves to be flesh and blood. I do not expect you to understand half of that, but perhaps others may. I wish Pope Francis a long and fruitful life of cleansing his church from corruption and degeneration and uplifting his flock away from the vanities of the world and humanity into the waiting and loving arms of the Lord. May he by this blessed and unselfish service expiate his sins so that afterwards he can join God forever, never to return to the world of sin. Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 15 March 2013 6:26:14 PM
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Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 15 March 2013 8:50:29 PM
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Daffy Duck, your posts indicate your misconception of the teachings of the Catholic Church.
It is not clear whether you come from an atheistic or religious background. Regardless, if you are interested, you may find out how others with such background overcame their misconceptions over time, in some cases after scores of years. The series that may be of interest is the EWTN TV weekly program, "The Journey Home with Marcus Grodi ", some 700 past audio recordings of which may be accessed at: http://www.ewtn.com/vondemand/audio/seriessearchprog.asp?seriesID=-6892289&T1=journey+home Posted by Raycom, Friday, 15 March 2013 10:33:25 PM
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Wasn't Francis a talking mule in a past life?
Posted by David G, Saturday, 16 March 2013 8:59:41 AM
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And yet if you ask any of them to explain what any of the words I used refer to in very real here-and-now terms they would not be able to so.
Furthermore, none of the more seemingly sophisticated explanations used by the Jesuit spin-meisters can do so either. It is all just brain created language games, the purpose of which is to mystify, and thus control the minds and bodies of the childish followers.
It is all quite literally towers of babel/babble.
Furthermore the use of the word "father" in relation to the poop, signifies in very real terms that the naively childish followers are quite literally kept in a state of childish incredulity, and thus effectively prevented from growing up into mature autonomous adult human beings.
The use of the term "original sin" effectively does this too. There is some supposedly insurmountable fault which supposedly prevents us from taking full responsibilty for our presence and actions in the world.
So too, with the "catholic" practice of confession. It is (again) a device which in one way or another effectively prevents the dreadfully sane propagandized believer from taking full responsibility for his/her presence and actions in the world. A device which lets them off the hook.
Taking full responsibility for ones presence and actions in the world is admittedly very difficult to do. But such responsibility is the very essence of being a fully autonomous human being.
There is no True Humanity without such lived responsibility. The capacity to respond with all of ones heart, mind, breath, and strength to any and every person and circumstance that arises in ones life.
There is NO one or thing to blame - including the "devil" or "satan".