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Living between the devil and the deep blue sea : Comments

By Shira Sebban, published 21/2/2013

It is too late to help Chaman himself. This young and handsome Afghan disappeared while en route to Australia by boat in October 2009. The boat was never found.

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...Of course any opposition to this “sop” will be immediately labelled heartless and arrogant. This is the classic example of why our Government has landed itself in hot water trying to balance budgets: It too “originally” fell into the Green trap of pandering to those who support the “Poor” boat people with five thousand dollars American jingling in each individual’s pocket for the “ticket to ride”.

...Only fools fall victim to “propaganda” films; “Celluloid” lies fell out of favor with Hitler! What a joke!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 21 February 2013 8:47:16 AM
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I don’t believe the line that this is about breaking people smugglers or safety of asylum seekers. As clark&dawe said on ABC TV 7.30 report recently, we could "Send safe boats to pick them up!". But this is really about our fear for our comfort, not their safety, right?

Any "SOLUTION" will need to recognise that as a political reality but it seems to me that government is letting fear reign on asylum seekers.

Perhaps we might even admit asylum seeker policy is less about "orderly process" & more fundamentally about fear of sharing, and then instead of continuing to be blinded by fear we might be able to see ways to make sharing beneficial to all.

Our unsustainable social economic environmental model is the underlying problem. An idea I think has merit because of its sound triple bottom line foundations is to offer asylum seekers 15hrs/wk work developing public 'eco' housing & gardens in exchange for food, accommodation & a dollar adjustment up to the value of unemployment benefits (see http://bit.ly/YD3L01)

Now that the High Court has spoken we should start processing of all asylum seekers and refugees on Australian soil without further delay.

This processing should be quick and efficient and take no more than three months. We should not consider returning to the Pacific Solution of the Howard Government.

The prolonged detention of asylum seekers has proved to be the main cause of unrest in the detention centres and the cause of the high incidence of mental illness among the detainees.

Mandatory detention and the off shore processing of asylum seekers has failed to deter asylum seekers from accessing our shores. It has proved to be extremely expensive for the taxpayers, especially at this time of financial uncertainty.

A clear majority of Australian voters believe that asylum seekers should be "processed" in Australia.

We should address these issues without delay and in accordance with the UN Convention on Refugees signed by Australia in 1954.

@landrights4all
Chris Baulman
Posted by landrights4all, Thursday, 21 February 2013 11:26:35 AM
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Who the #u(% cares?
It's another Muslim illegal immigrant Australia doesn't have to provide Aid that is much needed for Australian's Health, School, Infrastructure & Homeless.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 21 February 2013 11:56:47 AM
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Shira we can definitely do without the likes of your Chaman here in Oz.

He is exactly the type of citizen we, & the rest of the world, don’t need, ever. The type who run away, & want saving by someone else, are of little use to anyone.

If he was the type needed anywhere he would have stayed at home, & fought the Taliban, for his families & his countries sake. Yes it may have cost him his life, just as fighting for his welfare, at home has now cost quite a few Ozzies their life.

If our young men can go to fight for the welfare of these people, the least they could do is join that fight, not come looking for a bludge
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 21 February 2013 3:05:22 PM
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Hasbeen you are all heart aren't you? You and your hater friends without a clue?

The Afghans built this country for us, we have destroyed theirs for them and still you hate.

There is a genocide happening over there and since Jessie made this film, which I have watched a few times now, we have discovered that the vessel that supposedly disappeared was well known to us but we decided not to help anyone to protect a dirty spy working for the AFP to kill them.

I am sick to death of the haters and worthless trash like you who don't learn, do not want to learn, have no interest in anyone or anything but your stupid selfish little selves.

Go and meet some AFghans you thugs or crawl back under your racist ugly rocks.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Thursday, 21 February 2013 3:24:41 PM
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Marylin:

...In the reverse of your concepts that those who disagree with you are “Rogues” and worse, there must be just a glimmer of recognition in your conclusion, that a common view of cue jumpers with five thousand dollars to spare for a boat ride to Australia, are actually viewed by many Australians as just that, “Rogues”.

...I think personally, these free loaders coming by boat “Illegally” to Australian shores, are in reality the “greedy and selfish” ones in the equation! It is an apt question asked by a poster above, why the freeloading boat refugees do not stay in Afghanistan and fight the Taliban.

...Consider for a moment how our own young servicemen and women feel about Afghan youth fleeing their responsibility at home while they the servicemen, risk their own life for the Afghan cause of freedom. It is a sick and disgusting expectation on the part of Afghans to flee for the freedom of Australia under those circumstances, and rightly will not be seen as a popular move among thinking Australians!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 21 February 2013 8:14:26 PM
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