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Climate of hunger : Comments

By Julian Cribb, published 27/11/2012

We are now looking down the barrel at climate-induced economic shocks that will make the GFC look like a hiccup.

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Catch 22;
The IPCC are using incorrect fossil fuel energy quantities available.
Decline in available oil, gas and coal will cause greater CO2 reduction
than all the expensive programs.
It is absolutely certain that alternative energy systems need to be
developed but for much more urgent reasons than global warming.
They are also needed much earlier than for global warming reasons.

To construct such enormous infrastructure will require large production
of steel and other building supplies. We should leave our coal and oil
energy system intact to enable the transition to whatever energy system follows.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 7:54:08 AM
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Julian, stop your worrying. Nuclear war is far more likely to get us before mass starvation does.

Israel and Iran are on a collision course and so are the imperialist U.S. and China.

Enjoy your day!
Posted by David G, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 8:39:09 AM
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Well, when any of this stuff actually happens, I'll apologise humbly to Julian. Till then I'm going to file it with the story about the 50 million climate refugees we're going to get by 2010:

http://asiancorrespondent.com/52189/what-happened-to-the-climate-refugees/

By the way, Julian, I note that you've already predicted an Apocalypse of Weeds and an Apocalypse of Nanotechnology.

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=2584
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=4411

So make up your mind: how ARE all the self-indulgent guilty capitalists going to die in order to satisfy your loathing for the human race? You really need to get your story straight on this.
Posted by Jon J, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 9:01:41 AM
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Jon J. Well said that man! Could not agree more. Julian, the only immediate and future threat to food supply is you envirocooks mandating food conversion to fuel.
Posted by Prompete, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 9:08:03 AM
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Yep, PriceWaterhouseCoopers and the World Bank are, of course, famous 'envirocrooks. As is the Pentagon.
Posted by Candide, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 9:39:55 AM
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Julian
Just supposing for a moment that any of the emission and temperature projections are right - and basically they are pile of guesswork, not settled science as some people have tried to pretend - then where does the hunger part come from? You and several others are assuming that higher temperatures means less rainfall.. what will probably happen (assuming any of the projections are right) is that the growing areas and rainfall patterns will shift around. More of Russia will become productive, maybe less of central Africa.

After all, the bulk of the world's hunger has to do with political issues and failure to introduce rule of law, not local growing conditions as such. If you want to make a difference chuck away the climate scare stories and insist on transparent government decision making in third world countries..
Posted by Curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 9:40:22 AM
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