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Rome has no monopoly on child abuse : Comments

By Xavier Symons, published 15/11/2012

While the Roman Catholic Church has to answer for its deficiencies on child abuse, that shouldn't allow others to escape scrutiny.

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And so it begins: having failed to head off investigations or limit their scope, the Catholic Church and its supporters are now trying to dilute their effect by persuading investigators to spend their time and resources looking elsewhere. Yes, if there are any other nation-wide organisations which have systematically protected and facilitated child abusers within their ranks, they should be investigated and stopped: but since there's no evidence whatever to suggest that any group other than the Catholic Church has been involved in this practice, it's clear where the investigations should commence.
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 15 November 2012 6:39:33 AM
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Let me add that if Xavier or any of his co-religionists have any genuine evidence of systematically condoned child abuse in any other organisation, they should bring it forward immediately, or risk being charged as accessories to crime.
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 15 November 2012 6:41:23 AM
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You don't have to be a Catholic supporter to agree with Xavier.

http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/systemic-abuse-was-not-confined-to-the-catholics/
Posted by Anthony2, Thursday, 15 November 2012 7:27:11 AM
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The real and important difference is that from the pope on down all of the various "catholic" propagandists pretend that the "catholic" church is the only bastion against what they call the scourge of moral and cultural relativism, and furthermore that it is the ONLY source of truth in the world, and that it has a claim on the lives of ALL human beings.
Some "catholic" propagandists even pretend that the current pope and the policies that he promotes provides the ONLY way of saving Western civilization from itself. Nevermind that Ratzinger was very much involved in the cover up process.
Remember too that priests are supposed to be "icons" of christ or persons of superior moral stature and exemplary behaviour.

Which is to say that the "catholic" church has inevitably and quire rightly been hoisted on the petard of its obvious double-minded hypocrisy.

Meanwhile of course systematic sexual, emotional and physical abuse by both "catholic" priests and nuns too has been a world-wide phenomenon for forever and a day. It is in no sense a recent phenomena.
Check out the various postings on the recent investigations in Ireland. The church hierarchy was very much involved in all of it. Plus do a Google on the sex lives of the popes.
Meanwhile the way in which the vatican and the then pope JPII treated cardinal Bernard Law, and more importantly the founder of Communion & Liberation, Marciel Marcel provides a template for understanding the vaticans official attitude re dealing with KNOWN abusers and those who deliberately perverted/prevented the course of justice.
Law was given sanctuary in the vatican, and Marciel was quietly retired, whereas he should have rotted to death in jail and been stripped of his status/honour as a Saint too.

Furthermore all priests convicted in a courst of law should automatically be instantly excommunicated - no exceptions.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Thursday, 15 November 2012 7:27:12 AM
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I imagine State run homes will share the same horrific stories of abuse. But maybe this is an opportunity to keep children safe in the future.

Weíve all heard the flurry of apologies for The Stolen, The Forgotten and recently the Forced Adoptions while still placing children into the hands of Churches and Not-for-Profits. In NSW weíve sped it up insisting ALL children removed from homes by FaCS be placed into NGOís by 2017.

Itís time the States stopped scattering the children into the hands of NGOís. These children are removed by the State and should be the responsibility of the State. One organization should be held accountable for childrenís wellbeing for their time in State initiated care and it needs to be the State.

All future Royal Commissions into abuse of children should have one target, The State; itís laws, itís policies and the systems in place for the Out-Of-Home-Care of children.
Posted by The Pied Piper, Thursday, 15 November 2012 8:16:13 AM
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Claiming a disproportionate concentration on the Catholic Church should in no way detract from the serious deficits within that church in regard to abuse. Non-compliance with protocols set in place to address pedophilia need thorough investigation.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-14/lawyer-claims-church-fails-to-comply-with-abuse-protocols/4372512
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 15 November 2012 9:56:56 AM
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