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A cautionary tale: counter-terrorism legislation : Comments

By Kellie Tranter, published 8/11/2012

Brooks is concerned that many Australians complacently believe that if you're not doing anything wrong you haven't got anything to worry about.

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This article is fine as far as it goes, but I bet Kellie Tranter doesn't have the same sympathy for the rights of those she disagrees with as she does for Hicks.

How about the use of the Anti-Discrimination Act against Andrew Bolt? Or the ACMA's vendetta against Alan Jones because he won't give equal time (on his own show, on a privately owned radio station) to the climate charge industry?

Our rights are being lost at an alarming rate, and it's the fault of the left as much as the right.
Posted by DavidL, Thursday, 8 November 2012 10:21:00 AM
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Well, Dr Haneef is arguably living testament to this Author's advocacy?
What we do need and not before time, is a bill of absolutely irrevocable rights, if only to actually ensure, if you've done nothing wrong, you have absolutely nothing to fear!
David Hicks admitted to and was training with the Taliban?
What would we do with someone, an Australian Benedict Arnold, that went to Germany and trained with the equally inhuman and brutal, Nazi SS!?
And Julian Assange did buy/receive stolen state secrets and then proceed to publish and be dammed, without either validating or verifying any of the material, putting real lives in real jeopardy, in so doing!
Where was he as Greek politicians and others were avoiding tax and opening up secret Swiss accounts, apparently worth billions, etc/etc.
No, all he seemed interested in, apparently was, illegally receiving and publishing American secrets?
Followed by avoiding facing the Swedish justice system, on all manner of extremely convenient conspiracy conjecture, and then jumping bail, [a very real very costly, (for others,) crime,] by claiming/taking sanctuary in a foreign embassy!
That all said and set aside; we stand almost alone as virtually the only western Democracy, that does not yet have a legally enforceable bill or rights!
Haneef and others tell us, we really do need one to actually ensure, that if you've actually done nothing wrong, you really do have nothing to actually fear, from the state!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 8 November 2012 12:40:31 PM
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We in the West live in an Oligarchy.Our Govts are under the control of large Corporate interests.Since 911 we have lost rights we have yet to realise.Howard's Sedition Laws are much like Bush's Patriot Act in which suspected terrorists can been indefinitely detained without legal council or contact with or next of kin.

Recently in the USA they went step further,ie The National Defence Authorisation Act whereby the Military can indefinetly detain anyone in the West at their whim.No trial or legal council.Is this not the hallmark of fascism?

Govts with oppressive laws cannot save us from death or injury.Govts with oppressive laws become our greatest threat as history proves.Starlin in Russia 20 million murdered,China during their revolution 60 million murdered,Hilter 6 million Jews + his war mongering.USA ;Vietnam War,North Korean War, Hiroshima,Iraq, Kosovo,Afghanistan,Pakistan,Lybia,Somalia and now stirring trouble in Syria.

We have more to fear from our own Govts than any terrorist.

I admire Kellie Trantor in her persistance in raising these important human rights issues.The people slept while Hitler amassed absolute power and we are doing likewise.
Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 8 November 2012 5:58:40 PM
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"We have more to fear from our own Govts than any terrorist," says Arjay. Hear, hear!

The citizens of the U.S. are learning the truth of this daily as their Government introduces them to assassination squads and the chance of being grabbed, then jailed without trial. Their country is also coming to terms with rendition and torture, the caging of people, and the increasing surveillance of all citizens.

American citizens, in the main, do not know the death and destruction being carried out around the world in their name because neither their Government or the MSM tell them. Ignorance is not bliss!

Arjay, what will it take to wake the people up?
Posted by David G, Friday, 9 November 2012 1:48:47 PM
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David G.Even amongst my own family and friends,they don't want to know or believe that this evil is at our door step.

What is happening in the USA will eventually happen here.Collectively,we have no moral compass or any real grasp of what past generations endowed upon us that hold up this fragile umbrella we know as civilisation.

I'm not optimistic,but will keep trying to create awareness.

http://globalresearch.ca/
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 9 November 2012 9:13:03 PM
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