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The goddess delusion : Comments

By Jim Morris, published 10/10/2012

Ageing should be embraced, even by those of us who are female.

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What are you talking about? It's true I missed the Australian article but it would have been helpful if you had provided some definition of this supposed 'goddess' problem. Having read the entire article I ma none the wiser.
Posted by CatMack, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 10:08:25 AM
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Thanks Jim, this type of "explanation" will wake up the intelligent, and baffle those poor unfortunates who can't see the cosmetics for the grease, there is a creed amongst most women that if they are not card carrying members of the "feminist union" they are letting their gender down, one of the edicts is to put those "bloody men" in their place, particularly after they have "graciously" submitted to SEX.
We are supposed to think we are being done some fantastic favor and should be showing eternal gratitude, that sexual relations between a man and a women is a TWO WAY street is one thing they don't want to admit to.
Deciding that it's not worth the bother brings out the true facts, and most men know all about the wrath and anger of "a woman scorned" and suddenly these "virgin queens" show an amazing lust for sex.
Fortunately there are some very attractive older women who have looked after themselves and not fallen into the trap of indulgence and laziness.
Quentin Bryce still looks attractive for her age but all of that is undone when you look at what a greedy, arrogant, indulgent, lump she really is, she as a solicitor thinks because no LAW is being broken she is doing nothing wrong, the lack of morality of her position means nothing to her.
As you rightly point out Jim there are many women who while beating drums to the "moral high" ground turn a blind eye to the antics of some of their feminine heroins and then wounder why there are "so many MISOGYNISTS".
Posted by lockhartlofty, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 1:46:23 PM
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Oh Dear..

On the one hand I'm musing that it's curious the way it seems only the opposite sex can be critical of its other. You rarely see men complaining about men, or women about women. Then I get annoyed sometimes that women get away with it but men are labelled misogynists.
Then I'm wondering that a 65 year old is condemning women for denying their age and condition, yet his photo is of an Adonis.
On the substance of the article I'd have to say it does look like misogyny, or at the very least a lop-sided world view.
Since when is the ALP "feminist"?
I suspect too that the men enjoy just as many perks as the Governor General does in her clothing allowance.
I'd love to see her and the Queen getting around in sack-cloth, but we live in an elitist world and the clothing allowance is no doubt comparatively modest by our elitist standards.
And why should elderly women be "dignified and realistic".
In my experience women often feel sexier as they get older, and I for one am not indifferent to their charms. The spice of sex is after all fantasy, and not vested in nubility. Indeed I've always found young women tedious in their generally idiotic conversation and infatuations (young men are seldom any better).
I think a good-looking mature woman has every right to play the goddess. Indeed many older women whose looks and figures are gone may still retain more sex appeal than their young contemporaries.
Finally, as Jim Morris illustrates, men tend to have just as many conceits--or should I say "mental illness"?
Posted by Squeers, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 2:43:34 PM
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Yeah things are pretty messed up. It's a very ungenerous (Not to mention aimless and pointless and sour) analysis here that it gives no discount for the fact women have been valued by their looks above all else for so long.

I suppose it's as un-generous as the average feminist is with the results of male gender conditioning. A bit like this....

http://www.dailylife.com.au/life-and-love/real-life/why-do-men-refuse-to-do-fertility-tests-20121005-2743n.html

'Havenít men been practicing for this moment their entire lives? Aiming issues aside, how hard is it to ejaculate into a jar?'

With the lack of insight and empathy going around it's a wonder men and women ever get together. Lucky the silent majority seems much more sane than these 'commentators'

'Since when is the ALP "feminist"?'

You'll bring back the ghost of antiseptic with that one...

Emilyyyy's lissssst!

They're carrying on like a bunch of rad fems at the moment. Whooping it up with You Go Girls! organizing hit squads to out 'misogynists' and being on the front page of Jezebel. Julia is revisiting her undergraduate yoof with that last spectacle.
Posted by Houellebecq, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 3:42:13 PM
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Squeers, how could you accuse the author of misogyny, when he has described Ms Brice as glamorous. All I see in her, in those horrible pastel suits, is mutton, dresses up as lamb.

I agree that a woman requires quite a few years to become beautiful. I doubt any under about 40, with some character showing could be so described.

How would you describe the new lady royal. She could never be described as pretty, & who would want such such an insipid appearance.

She could never be described as beautiful, although she does have beautiful eyes, which she uses to great effect.

No I think gorgeous would come close, but what does that mean.

I once lived with a gorgeous lady. She was far too hot to be beautiful, [beautiful is cold to me], & was not insipid enough to be pretty, but she was a traffic stopper.

It was her cross. The constant need to be not only admired, but reassured of her attractiveness got to me. She was a lovely person too but I had to get out. Perhaps that says as much of my immaturity at the time as it does her insecurity.

I once referred to my very attractive younger daughters make up as camouflage paint. I had meant war paint, which was probably acceptable. It was many days before she actually spoke to me, & weeks before I was forgiven, so do be careful.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 3:58:38 PM
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Granted, Misogyny's a fine sounding word, and no more empty of content that women's criticism of men. The article's more of a rant than misogyny, but it lends more strength to women's cause than men's.
As for the perennially-unedifying spectacle of politics, they stand for nothing; politicians are the worst kind of populists. I do believe I might have some respect for a genuine politician, but it's a contradiction in terms.
Hasbeen,
I sympathise. I have a very attractive daughter too and god knows why she plasters the make-up on. She's intelligent too, though you wouldn't think so when she's with her mates. But you do sound like a chauvinist--just the era. Feminists will probably make eunuchs of us all and then complain when the shopping utopia comes to an end and they need real men.
That's when the goddesses will need their wiles.
Posted by Squeers, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 8:12:23 PM
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