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The worst and the best of mankind : Comments

By Vic Alhadeff, published 5/9/2012

The episode involved almost one-third of the 42,000 French Jews sent to the death camps in 1942. A total of 76,000 were deported; 2500 survived.

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Being a child during W.W.2, but having read several accounts of the Holocaust, I could not quite bring myself to visit Auschwitz, however, by chance when in Linz and Prague, my wife and I took local transport to Mauthausen, close to Linz, and to Terezin North of Prague.

How the Holocaust could occur in what was meant to be a cultured and advance part of the world is difficult to comprehend. We were very glad we did see both those places and found them far more significant than the places on the usual tourist routes. Reader--if you can't get to see them please check them out on the net.
Posted by Noelreg, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 10:42:47 AM
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The reason "far right" (misnomer that it is) activists are angered by references to the so called holocaust is because it's available for use as a political toll by their opponents, as in this article and forbidden to them on penalty of imprisonment in most of Europe.
Jobbik, Golden Dawn and the others are legitimate Nationalist political parties who draw their support from indigenous European communities, yet they are spuriosly and dishonestly linked by their enemies to a period in history and a regime which none of them could have legally joined and the image of which has grown outlandish and totally distorted by lies and propaganda.Radical Jewish activists purposely set out to destroy every promising Nationalist group which forms in a majority European country, just as they did in the early years of the NSDAP, the NF in Great Britian, National Action in Australia, the National Alliance in the U.S.A, this is why they are roundly hated by Nationalists and why as a result the whole Jewish diaspora is held accountable and the reason why this tit-for-tat violence occasionally occurs between Jews and Nationalists.
Furthermore lets not kid ourselves that "Nationalists" are even predominantly responsible for Anti Semitic attacks in 2012, Islamic and Left Wing extremists are and have since the 1960's been the far greater threat.
Remember the Marseilles outrage a few months back? What did the media say in the first hours after the murders? They instantly spun it as "Neo Nazis" and "Far right" sympathisers who had been expelled from the military. Who was found to be responsible? It was an Islamic extremist wasn't it?
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Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 1:56:11 PM
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Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 2:01:43 PM
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Jay

Do you deny that the holocaust happened? Or the episode Vic describes?

Your comments about “Jewish activists” being responsible for the failure of groups like the NF, and the “whole Jewish diaspora” being held accountable and therefore subject to “tit for tat” violence, parallels exactly the paranoid manufacture of political guilt as a justification for racial violence that the Nazis employed.

I was a member of the Anti-Nazi League in Britain many years ago, and I assure you it had members from across the political spectrum and of many different races and religions. Lots of people thought their ideas vile enough to warrant active resistance – and still do.
Posted by Rhian, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 2:14:26 PM
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My word we do seem to have quite a coterie of Holocaust deniers on OLO.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 2:25:51 PM
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The biggest issue I have with this article is that by linking the two periods in time it implies that modern European Nationalists are in favour of a single party or single ideology dominating the continent, a "racist" pan National movement that would exclude everyone who didn't fit a particular genetic archetype.
This is completely a completely false assertion and flys in the face both of historical fact and the platforms of the various parties and sects.
Golden Dawn, the NF, Jobbik and all are opposed to the EU, they particularly hate the role Germany is now playing in European politics and like the patriots of the 1930's and 1940's they pledge their lives to defeat a centralised European power.
What european Nationalists want is a Europe for Europeans, they want self determination, a right to preserve their unique genetics and culture,they want all non Europeans expelled from the continent and they want secure National borders.
It beggars belief that the author would imply that Jews have much to fear from Nationalists yet fail to acknowledge the very grave and very real threat posed to his ethnic group by the millions of hostlie non Europeans and Muslims resident in those lands, if Jews threw their considerable economic and political weight behind European Nationalism and explicitly allied themselves with them as they have done in the U.K would they not be dealing with both problems in one move? The problems between Jews and European Nationalists could be resolved in a detente and an agreement to co exist, the issue of Europe's hostlie alien populations is an existential threat to both Jews and Whites and has no solution besides expulsion of all non Europeans from the continent.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 2:49:07 PM
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