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The eco-fascist face of population control : Comments

By Malcolm King, published 21/5/2012

Much of the anti-population rhetoric is based around the deleterious effects of immigration on the economy.

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An excellent article Malcolm.Dr Rima Laidbow the wife of Major General Stubblebine said that the best way to reduce population is to give women an education and control over their fertility.

The West with its debt based system of money enslavement has spent $ trillions on weapons,created enormous poverty, kept people ignorant and procreating.

Now the billionaire elites want drastic reduction in population via food reduction,wars and disease.The "eco-terrorists" are at the forefront of this oppression.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 21 May 2012 8:23:49 AM
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Advocates of sustainable population for Australia want to “Reduce Australia's rate of population growth to zero as rapidly as possible. If the resulting stable population is still environmentally unsustainable then work to reduce the size of the population until we achieve environmental sustainability.” This sounds like common-sense, not "eco-facism". It's about being "sustainable" - a word that has become over-used and devoid of any real meaning. How can we address climate change, food security, environmental conservation, the oceans, pollution, our coasts, the liveability of our cities, and economic viability without a sustainable population in the real sense of the word? Humans are NOT rabbits, of course, but some people seem to think that when it comes to human numbers, the limits are infinite, and Nature will just be subdued and compliant and provide for human needs and infinite growth! Population growth is "good" for the economy, but it's only one dimension of our existence. However, it's become an end in itself, rather than a means to an end. We must survive the economic, environmental and ecological threats of global human overpopulation - due to our "success" on the planet.
Posted by VivKay, Monday, 21 May 2012 9:23:40 AM
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Cheryl, the huge problem with your article is your amazing anti-people and eco-fascist rhetoric!

It destroys your argument right from the outset. You just can’t help yourself in profusely expressing how intensely and irrationally you hate anyone who espouses a stable population or an end to continuous rapid growth.

Your attempts at logical analysis are highly compromised by this absurdly illogical and emotive style of expression.

You wrote:

<<<< The SPNG’s aim is to “Reduce Australia's rate of population growthto zero as rapidly as possible. If the resulting stable population is still environmentally unsustainable then work to reduce the size of the population until we achieve environmental sustainability.”

This astonishing statement means they want to use individual consumption data to determine one’s sustainability on the earth. So if you have an open fire, drive a six-cylinder car and have a high power bill, you’re in line for a visit from the eco-fascist police. The SPNG are hit men for Mother Nature.

The appeal of the SPNG is emotional, visual and psychological. The SPNG ask us to envision humans as vermin ravaging mother earth, much as the Nazis depicted Jews as rats. >>>>

So… who’s making an astonishing statement here?

SPNG’s position sounds sensible to me. And even to most who may not agree, it would surely appear to be a fair viewpoint. It is certainly a whole lot more sensible than the current philosophy of both major parties; of continuous very high immigration, big lump-sum payments for babies and rapid population growth with no end in sight.

Again, tis you who makes the astonishing statements:

<< … you’re in line for a visit from the eco-fascist police… >>, << …envision humans as vermin ravaging mother earth… >> !!

I wonder, how is it all working for you?
Posted by Ludwig, Monday, 21 May 2012 9:43:22 AM
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This article is such a bizarre ad hominem rant that I won't waste time refuting its "arguments", and I'd suggest other readers don't waste theirs either It looks rather like the propaganda put out by the (so-called) "Citizens Electoral Council".

Most readers will soon twig that this article is full of fantasies, like the opinion poll that the author invents:

Q1. Are you in favour of population control if we sterilize immigrants from non-Anglo Saxon countries? You bet.

Q2. Should we select females under 30 by lottery who earn less that $35,000 a year for sterilisation? That would fix the single mothers defrauding welfare.

Clearly this person lives in an imaginary world.
Posted by Livio, Monday, 21 May 2012 9:54:56 AM
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Wow - this article started with lies and then it was all downhill from there. There is no such thing as the "Sustainable People Lobby". Sandra Kanck is the president of Sustainable Population Australia that has patrons Bob Carr, Paul Collins, Mary White, Ian Lowe and Tim Flannery.

Malcolm says that "SPGN wants to stop all immigration". This is a lie. SPGN wants to reduce NET immigration to zero. Since about 85,000 people emigrate from Australia each year this allows for the same number to immigrate in Australia.

Malcolm tries to pretend that Europe's population growth rate is somehow representative of Australia when, at 1.6-2%, ours is more similar to many developing world nations. SPGN has no influence over Europe, Africa or other nations - it is an Australian political party.

Malcolm is a Labor Party media advisor and the Labor Party is seriously concerned about SPGN's activities in South Australia. South Australia recently changed it political party registration laws to make it very difficult for new parties to register or for parties without a parliamentary representative to remain registered.

It is disappointing that OLO allows unsupported lies to be published when the slightest bit of fact-checking would reveal them. This should be an embarrassment for OLO and is definitely one of their lower moments.
Posted by michael_in_adelaide, Monday, 21 May 2012 10:08:46 AM
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We are dealing with an elite of billionaires,scientists and Govt Officials who believe that the only way forward for the survival of the planet is for them to have total control via this New World Order.

Just google Agenda 21 of the UN where they want a socialist state to Govern the planet whereby the individual counts for nothing, ie has no rights of property or democratic freedoms.Bob Brown in the past has said he believes in Global Governance.Gillard has dedicated 10% of the Carbon Taxes to the UN which will be the centre of the New World Order.This will be the eco-terrorist's Global Nevana of absolute oppression run by billionaires.

The great human cull is high on their agenda.The eco-fascists have yet to realise that they too might be victims because the extremists want a 90% reduction in the human population ASAP.Just google Maurice Strong ex-secetary of the UN.

Why do you think China,Russia India,Pakistan, Brazil etc are now forming alliances in trade, money,and Military under the Shanghai Co-operation Organisation and the BRICKS nations? They know that since they have the huge populations,they will bare the brunt of this oppression.They don't want Bush's or Obama's New World Order that destroys civilisation.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 21 May 2012 11:09:08 AM
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