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The Trayvon Martin case: a lesson still to be learned : Comments

By Walt Brasch, published 1/5/2012

Discrimination occurs throughout the USA, whether we want to believe it or not.

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But looking at the facts of the Trayvon case, we see a photo of Zimmerman's head covered in blood which supports the report that Trayvon repeatedly slammed Zimmerman's head into the pavement. Zimmerman was then forced to shoot Trayvon in order to save his own life - it is true that the stand your ground law, in fact, saved the life of an innocent man. How many other innocents could have been saved by such a law?

As for Arizona Senate Bill 1070, the Supremes look set to uphold the law because to do otherwise is to destroy the concept of the Nation-State and sovereignty of countries.
Posted by progressive pat, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:42:40 AM
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The ADL , One People's Project and SPLC are not reliable sources of information, they're just "Race Hustlers" looking for donations, they're utterly discredited in the U.S.
Here's a better, less biased and hysterical piece from Reuters:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425

The New Black Panthers and those Nazi cretins who showed up to "patrol" the suburbs are widely accused of having been created and funded by these "Anti Racist" organisations and riddled with provocateurs and FBI agents, it's a common enough practice, ask the "Occupy" protestors.
Listen to this audio from the NBPP (Warning, foul language and racially charged hate speech)
http://ironicsurrealism.com/2012/04/08/new-black-panthers-conspire-to-wage-bloody-race-war-april-9-day-of-action-for-trayvon/

If you look online for a similar response from pro White commentators, that is of the Conservative variety, not the aforementioned Nazi cretins they're mostly indifferent due to the fact that Zimmerman isn't even White, he's Hispanic and this case doesn't seem to be racially motivated anyway.
Hate Speech is constitutionally protected in the U.S, but only up to a point, these Black Nationalists and their Nazi or "Klan" mirror groups could be hauled before a court on all sorts of Homeland security and civil rights charges but they never are. Why? Because they're not real dissidents, they're agent provocateurs, part of the "Race Hustler" business model.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 2:33:37 PM
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So here are a couple of other crimes which happened roughly within the same time frame.
13 year old White boy, racially taunted, doused in gasoline and set on fire by black "Teens":
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110078/Boy-13-doused-gasoline-set-alight-racially-motivated-attack-Kansas-City.html

Bob and Nancy Strait, married 65 years, Bob 90,was beaten and Nancy 85 raped and beaten to death by a gang of black "Teens", Tyrone Woodford, 19 is in custody:
http://www.newson6.com/story/17178698/family-of-tulsa-couple-victimised-in-home-invasion-speak-out?clienttype=printable

I could fill 100 pages with these kind of horror stories, Whites are victims of Black "teens" every day of the week, every day of the year in the U.S, is it any wonder these "Teens" are profiled and treated with suspicion?
BTW "Teen", "Youth" or "Urban Teen" are euphemisms for "Black" used by the American media.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 8:37:08 PM
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Dear progressive pat,

What on earth is this?

“As for Arizona Senate Bill 1070, the Supremes look set to uphold the law because to do otherwise is to destroy the concept of the Nation-State and sovereignty of countries.”

Bull dust.

It actually attacks the concept of the Nation-State and sovereignty of countries.

Dear Jay of Melbourne,

You are either being disingenuous or a bit of a dill. White vs Black crimes happen all the time. What makes the Trevon Martin case a far more prominent in the eyes of most thinking people was the actions of the police officers and prosecutors. Standard procedure was not followed, a breath test was not administered and Zimmerman was released without a thorough investigation occurring.

Nor was Zimmerman 'standing his ground' instead he was tracking Trevon, against police instructions, which had the kid worried for his safety. If I were cornered by a male weighing half as much again as I do, who didn't identify himself as a cop, I might consider attack as a reasonable option.

To imagine the colour of Travon's skin had nothing to do with the actions of Zimmerman or the law is crazy.

The two cases you quote really only have relevance if the perpetrators are not arrested when caught by the police and no charges are laid.

Just a note. There is no evidence there was more than one individual in the horrific case of Bob and Nancy Strait, and there were only two individuals in the other case.
Posted by csteele, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:43:11 PM
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Csteele.
Ah, you've been taken in by the spin, Trayvon was six foot three when he died, he was significantly larger and more powerfully built than Zimmerman, the media shows these photos of a smiling little boy, at ages 8 and 11 as sucker bait for bleeding hearts.
Read the Reuters article above for some context and the "technicalities" you mention are not the most pressing issues of this case, I'm reacting to the article at the head of this discussion which makes certain claims about Race.
The Color Of Crime document is getting on for ten years old but it paints a startling picture of the nature of crime in the U.S, what the clever dicks in the media usually do now is lump the statistic Mexican and Latino criminals in with White offenders to make things "fairer" so as not to stigmatise Black people but your assertion of the "Prevalence" of White on Black crime is not in any way sustainable.
http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html

The main point here is that Whiteness and White people have nothing whatsoever to do with this case, as the author is implying, Zimmerman is not a White man by any stretch of the imagination and he seems not to have any prejudices in regard to race.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 6:24:16 AM
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