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‘Golden age’ for gas fails to illuminate solution for climate change : Comments

By Rebecca McNicholl and Matthew Wright, published 5/3/2012

Is it really the golden age of gas for Queensland?

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As always, these apocalyptic 'studies' are based on models which have been shown to be unable to either predict or retrodict events in the real world. There is no reason to think Queensland natural gas CO2 'emissions' will have any more effect than the other CO2 emissions accumulating during the last fifteen years -- none of which so far have managed to raise the global temperature one iota.

Really, isn't it time the AGW nonsense was tested in a court of law? There must be millions of people by now who are measurably worse off due to this voodoo cult.
Posted by Jon J, Monday, 5 March 2012 6:40:56 AM
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Yes, it would be interesting indeed for those concerned about anthropogenic CO2 to just show us how much of the observed warming (that happened last century) was due to anthropogenic CO2 as opposed to natural cycles and land-use factors.

All of the evidence suggests that a) the physics show a likely warming of around 1 deg C for a doubling of CO2, b) that the sensitivities/feedbacks are neutral or negative compared with the IPCC assumptions that make the warming for a doubling of CO2 around 3.5 deg C.

The evidence also show that natural cycles are important, and also that land-use effects affect local and regional climate in many places. If CO2 is a problem, history shows us that it must be a relatively minor problem.

Nobody yet has provided any convincing proof that anthropogenic CO2 is actually a major problem. Yet here we are, throwing our economy into disarry. Why?
Posted by Herbert Stencil, Monday, 5 March 2012 7:08:50 AM
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What would the noalition do without a national treasure like Clive Palmer behind them, Financing the push behind the carbon pricing.
He wants more of the share, and willing to spend up big to get it.
A 1 degree rise in ocean temp is all it has taken so far, and we have some of the worst storms circulating the globe in history.
Another 1 degree in 15 years and the world will be tearing itself apart.
Posted by 579, Monday, 5 March 2012 7:49:33 AM
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'Worst storms in history?' 579? Do you even bother to check the historical record?

http://www.jpands.org/vol14no4/goklany.pdf

"...mortality and morbidity from extreme weather events peaked decades ago..."
Posted by Jon J, Monday, 5 March 2012 7:58:47 AM
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I follow the CO2 debate with interest, but I don't claim to know
the answers about long term effects etc, so stay open minded.

What did interest me over the weekend, was an article about what
is happening in China. It seems that the Chinese have been watching
the furious development of the US shale gas industry and are
investigating their own reserves of shale gas. They've come to
the conclusion that they have 27 trillion cubic metres of reserves,
which they could access using the US developed technology. That
would be enough to supply China for 200 years. If this is correct,
it will have a dramatic effect on Australian gas prices and on global
CO2 levels. Our little bit of CO2 simply won't matter.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 5 March 2012 8:08:55 AM
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Yes Yabby, I think anyone investing in the wests offshore gas, or Queensland's coal seam gas would be well advised to keep their powder dry for a while.

We may be lucky, & for some time as with our coal, China will find it cheaper to buy & transport our gas, than to harvest & transport their own. However this may be a very short time indeed, considering the infrastructure investment involved in developing & exporting the stuff.

So Rebecca & Matthew, you may be luck, & your barely concealed wish that the gas companies go broke, even while their contributions to government coffers continue to help our government invest our taxes in their windmill stupidity.

Meanwhile it is interesting to read an article by a couple of activists, who have read nothing but their own propaganda for quite some time.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 5 March 2012 10:49:09 AM
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