Every Australian concerned with this continual tragedy should contact Tony "refugee" Abboat's office, 0299776411, and demand he stop voting with the Greens and pass the immigration departments Malaysia solution immediately, how many more people will die because of Tony "refugee" Abboat's base politicking and how many more and more of Scott More-issons refugees will be encouraged to lose their lives Que jumping the Howard Govt appointed immigration departments experts recommendations? Over a thousand have now made the voyage since Tony "refugee" Abboat voted with the Greens to cause this tragedy that the "experts all warned" would continue to happen again and again.

Mirko. You mention processing, but not the elephant in the room. That is, most of the boat people throw away their documents. It is therefore a very costly and time-consuming process to establish who these people are, where they actually come from, what their stories really are, are they a risk to Australia, why have they thrown their papers away, and why should they be allowed to jump to the head of the queue.

There is a simple answer. No papers - No Entry.

Clearly there may be some genuine cases of lost papers. OK, acknowledge that, but tell them that there will be a long bureaucratic process, detention until their stories are verified. That they will need to cooperate with DNA matching with family back home so that their identity can be confirmed etc.

For some reason, all of these discussions fail to mention the thrown away papers issue, which is clearly a big part of the problem.

And when it comes to people in their 20s masquerading as unaccompanied minors under 17. Tell them that we can establish their age through tests, and if they are found to be telling untruths, they will be deported.

Has anybody ever considered that the Illegal Entrants do not throw away their documents as they have no legal reason to do so, perhaps they sell their documents after landing in Indonesia and the person they sell to then uses them to fly in on a visitor's visa then apply for refugee status?

Mirko,

Simplistic to the point of farce. Aren't you forgetting about all the tumoil in international affairs since 2006? The continuing internal strife in Iraq and Afghanistan, the internal conflicts in Shri Lanka and various African states, and the Arabian Spring, all of which have contributed to a mass refugee exodus? This exodus has been overwhelming European states, Malaysia and Indonesia, and conditions in the latter in particular are far less than welcoming to these 'refugees'; thus massively exacerbating the refugee problem and the consequent boarding of smuggler boats for good old Aus.

Bring 13,750 from Somalia, because they're starving? How about using part of the $1 billion to feed them and to rejuvenate their economy, and whilst about it, how about ridding them of the likes of the Al Shabaab criminal curse or War Lords, or whatever parasitic psychopathic demagogues have been making their lives a misery? 13,750? What about the other million or so? Women and children first? So, let the men rot, eh? And Aus is a better future than fixing up their own country? Say, let's see if next year we can't 'save' those in Sudan, or Morocco, Egypt, Syria, Libya .... Aus, saviour of the world's poor and underprivileged. Hooray for us!

And, what do you propose for the still continuing boat arrivals? Turn them around? Or ship them back from whence they came? Fat chance.

You are living in a dream world, Mirko. Time to wake up now. Not all solutions are simply political.

We did not create the situation of plight so many face in our troubled world. We can help to alleviate their situation perhaps, if they can also help themselves (and stop having so many children perhaps). But, we alone cannot, and should not attempt to save all the world's poor, or act as executioner and take a few here or there, leaving the rest to rot. Multi-national restoritative action is the only viable solution. All else is a continuation of a badly failed system.

Saltpetre,

Mirko Bagaric may be living in a dream world but is there any other world in which a humane man can go?

We, the Westerns, are responsible for the present world situation. We went and colonized Africa and the Americas and Australia and poisoned those people lives with our social values, religions and greed and washed our hands when we left.

Now, even if we wished, we cannot help, as the same greed that took us to their country is poisoning our lives.

Dreaming is all we have left while the CEOs of our corporate West exploit the planet dry

Do grow up skeptic, self hate is not pretty.

India & China, South Africa, Indochina, Indonesia, the Philippines & to some extent even Bangladesh are prospering on the development & infrastructure left behind by colonialism. If African countries have not taken advantage of the infrastructure it's no body's fault but theirs.

Yes Saltpeter, the best idea is to bring in no one who will not be an asset to the country, avoid wasteful expenditure which does nothing for Oz, & spend the money saved in the country of origin. Any amount of money will go much further, & do more good for more people that way.