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Does gay marriage prove marriage matters? : Comments

By Peter Kurti, published 29/9/2011

Until the advent of the argument about gay marriage, straight marriage seemed to be an institution doomed to disappear.

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Statistics on divorce only prove the lack of commitment and prejudice of people in human relationships. It does not undermine the ideals of a good relationship of husband and wife and its input into family.
Posted by Philo, Thursday, 29 September 2011 10:46:22 AM
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...An interesting key-hole to peer through onto the subject matter of gay rights would be attached to the door of Bob Katter. Katter, with a half-brother as camp as a row of army tents, insists against the family odds, Bob refine his views on gay rights. Won’t happen of course, thankfully, because Bob is correct to oppose the new age nonsense of gay marriage currently presented to all as “normal” when what is patiently offensive is the “in your face” attack on community morals and acceptable community standards by a sick group of individuals presenting as oppressed homosexuals, led by the sickest of individuals from the wilds of Tasmania, Bob Brown.

...Bobs Katters half-brother complained recently to a channel ten reporter of the oppression received at the hand of brother Bob voicing contrary opinions to an anti-gay rally in Canberra. (Love ya for that Bob; not in sick ways of a homosexual, but in the path of true love of a brave fellow human, facing off to a challenge of immorality disguising itself as normal). Some of “half -brothers” complaints were directed towards Bob Katters speech at the rally viz., “"Truly this proposition (gay marriage) deserves to be laughed at and ridiculed. It doesn't serve any serious treatment”.

...If gay brother is offended at such honest comment, then I would suggest to him, as to anyone with a similar outlook, get over it, for the main reason that this topic will be politically damaging to whomever supports the stand against community interests, as gay marriage does!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 29 September 2011 11:04:37 AM
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NO! Gay Marriage does NOT prove that Marriage Matters ... it proves that EQUAL RIGHTS matter!

In an egalitarian and fundamentally secular democracy like Australia, we should not have different laws based on gender or sexual predilection.

Australia has always been ahead with equal rights since being one of the first countries in the world (after New Zealand) to grant women the vote. We rule for a common good, not the individual, as with many of our laws.

I am proud to say as a married, straight breeder of three, I am appalled at the hypocrisy and misinformation around this issue. Just amend the Marriage Act and get on with it!
Posted by Randall, Thursday, 29 September 2011 11:21:18 AM
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But Randall,
Included in human rights is the right to Religious Freedom.
Where gay marriage has been legalised Christians have lost their right to religious freedom

E.g. In the public sector
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/nyregion/rights-clash-as-town-clerk-rejects-her-role-in-gay-marriages.html

e.g. Christian school kids
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/23/us-gay-student-texas-idUSTRE78M6HC20110923

e.g. Sports
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700133436/Peter-Vidmar-steps-down-as-chief-of-mission-for-2012-US-Olympic-Team.html

If the Australian people want Christians excluded from society why not just say it out loud instead of hiding behind equality legislation?

If the government wants everyone to be happy it would get out of the culture wars and the marriage game altogether and let people follow their conscience.
Posted by TRUTHNOW78, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:44:51 PM
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As Randall points out, the issue is not how many gay people want to get married -- which I suspect will only ever be a tiny proportion of the total -- but the fact that they are legally prevented from doing so while heterosexuals are not.

You can draw a parallel with the situation in Saudi Arabia, where women are prohibited from driving vehicles, not because of their driving abilities or lack thereof, but simply because they are women. Even if you think there are too many drivers on the road already, you can still see that this is a grossly unfair way to keep the numbers from rising.
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:48:52 PM
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"If the Australian people want Christians excluded from society why not just say it out loud instead of hiding behind equality legislation?"

Your freedom to be Christian ends at the point where it interferes with my freedom not to be. Nobody is forcing Christians to marry their gay partners, attend gay marriages, celebrate gay marriages or even to stop campaigning against gay marriages. We're simply pointing out that what other informed adults choose do with their bodies is none of your business, just as whatever silly games you play in church is none of ours -- as long as it stays in church and doesn't impact on us.
Posted by Jon J, Thursday, 29 September 2011 12:52:50 PM
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