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A polluters pal won't last in NSW : Comments

By Ramya Krishnan, published 25/3/2011

To have a future O'Farrell must back the power of the future and agree with taxing carbon

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Interesting, that the current folks who claim to be representative of youth, have already declared that a rally of 8,000 people organized by an activist organization, "beats" another rally organized by locals in the PM's electorate.

Then based on that "win", the NSW government led by Liberals, which hasn't even gone to the vote yet, "must" do this and that and some other, because of this win.

If the Liberals win in NSW, then I would suggest they will do what their constituents want, being representatives of those constituents.

Activist group hugs do not constitute a replacement for democracy, thankfully.

Saying they must not hitch themselves to a losing side, putting aside the usual alarmist youth club insult to other Australians, the Liberals will have won in NSW regardless of Your Climate Club demands or otherwise.

Good on you for being politically and environmentally active, but please don't try to pass fast footed BS off as reasoning for your cause.

Yes, you're young, and that's fun isn't it, but please consider that on our way to getting older, we have actually not forgotten anything or become more stupid with age. Many of us run businesses and families and have traveled extensively.

We have also had the opportunity to make many decisions in life and to watch other people's decisions. The people we have watched who get involved in trying to promote their ideas to other people or even force their ideas on them, and worse, try to use crappy logic to get their own way, sometimes end up looking like spoiled brats .. I don't know why this always occurs to me reading articles from your club .. it just seems to be immature demands for getting your own way, because you're young, you care and we're old and apparently do not care (?) and for some reason are considered stupid.

Could I offer a suggestion, if you want to convince people of your argument's value .. stop insulting them as you do, calling people deniers, when over 50% of Australians apparently fit this position, is a losing strategy.
Posted by rpg, Friday, 25 March 2011 6:35:06 AM
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So no criticism of the ALP government that has had power in NSW for so many years during their stewardship, but the moment it looks like conservatives might gain power you feel it's time for some threats and a beatup, before the result of the election is even in.

"They want and expect to be delivered into the 21st century – a low carbon economy, green jobs and a world class public transport system."

Really, the NSW people want a low carbon economy? Do they know that? I thought they wanted some infrastructure and a government that delivers services, not lectures on why they shouldn't.

Has a low carbon economy been mentioned at all? I think you made that up, it's what you want and you're probably one of the only ones who thinks they know what that actually is.

"needs to learn this quickly if he wants to ensure his political survival" Gosh, are you and getup going to do something?

"needs to unhitch his wagon etc etc" so, like the ALP have been doing? oh ..

"first test will be ensuring that NSW stays ahead of the curve in Australia’s transition to a low-carbon economy" that sounds like your goal rather than the NSW Libs?

"he must face up to unless he wants to tie his political future to an out-dated and losing side" really, losing side, that would be the ALP wouldn't it?

Sorry, this is just sounding like an immature rant of demands by someone, or organization who can't deal with the facts and appears used to getting their own way, tantrum, that's the word..

I suspect the Liberals in NSW is going to thwart a lot of plans, hence the spray of threats if things aren't done the way of certain ideologically biased people.

Should be interesting once Australia has wall to wall conservative governments in the states, to offset the getupindigreenalps party
Posted by Amicus, Friday, 25 March 2011 7:57:44 AM
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Do I smell "panic" from the warmetartiat?
Posted by spindoc, Friday, 25 March 2011 8:25:56 AM
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It's amazing what free ice cream at youth rallies and free air tickets to international conferences for youth group leaders can achieve. The Pied Piper of Hamelin comes to mind.
3000 protesters of all ages paid their own fares and took time out to attend the Canberra "No carbon tax" rally on the 23rd of March 2011. Their primary objection was being misled at the last Federal election. In response, our Prime Minister, supposedly an an athiest, attended the church of the modern day crucifix (wind farm). Labor MP's whose job it is to obfuscate natural climate change, with the contentious and unproven man-made climate change ramped up the name calling with "extremists" and "ratbags".
The climate/carbon scam should have ended with "climategate" and the failure at Copenhagen. The draft treaty exposed the motives of the UN. Phil Jones's admissions and the numerous IPCC scandals which followed exposed the scientific fraud for all to see.
It will be interesting to hear what if anything, Barry O'Farrell has to say to the thousands who will attend the next "No Carbon Tax" protest at Hyde Park, Sydney on the 2nd of April.
Posted by CO2, Friday, 25 March 2011 9:03:37 AM
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As soon as I heard that Barry O'Farrell was not supportive of a carbon tax he lost my vote.
If O'Farrell cannot respond in a rational manner to the climate change problem how can I reasonably expect him to behave rationally on any problem that is brought to his attention? Likewise for anybody that professes to be informed about climate change but thinks we should do nothing.
Oh and by the way I am hardly from the young generation being over 50. My experience has shown me that many people are resistant to change, that corporations with vested interests act to try to keep the old way going for as long as possible and are happy to fund others to spread uncertainty. Over time facts and common sense win out but the problem is how long that process takes.
Posted by Rich2, Friday, 25 March 2011 11:51:59 AM
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Unlike many politicians (including Malcolm Turnbull) who prefer to believe the anthropogenic global warming dogma, and thus bury their head in the sand, Barry O'Farrell is rationbal enough to oppose the carbon tax.

BOF recognises that it will only benefit the vested interests, such as Origin Energy and AGL, who need the tax to penalise coal-fired electricity generation, so that they can invest in socalled renewable energies, wind-driven and solar-driven energies that are respectively five times and at least ten times more costly than coal-fired energy.
Everyone else in the economy will be made worse off.
Posted by Raycom, Friday, 25 March 2011 1:08:24 PM
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